What Happens When Two Identical Balls Collide Perfectly Elastically?

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The discussion revolves around perfectly elastic collisions involving two identical balls. The original poster presents a scenario where one ball is moving and the other is stationary, while another participant describes a similar situation with two balls approaching each other at different velocities. Both scenarios lack mass information, raising questions about determining post-collision velocities.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy in elastic collisions. Questions arise regarding how to approach the problems without mass information. Some participants suggest using vector components for the second scenario.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the implications of equal mass in collisions and the conservation laws. Hints have been provided regarding the use of vectors and the conservation principles, but no consensus has been reached on specific methods or solutions.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of mass information for both problems, which is central to the discussions. Participants are also considering the implications of directionality in the second scenario.

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Ball #1 moving at a speed of +4.4 m/s along x-axis collides with an identical ball (#2). The initial velocity of ball #2 is equal to zero. Assume that this is a perfectly elastic collision.

I know that Pbefore = Pafter - but since I'm not given the mass of either ball how am I to know what their velocities are after they hit?
 
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I have another problem that asks a similar question, no mass given:

Two balls of equal mass approach the coordinate origin where they collide. Assume that this is a perfectly elastic collision. Before collision, one ball moves along the y-axis at +4.5 m/s and the other ball moves along the x-axis at +4.4 m/s. After they collide, one of the balls moves along the x-axis at +1.2 m/s.

Find the x-component of velocity of the other ball after the collision =

How do I get started on these problems? Thanks
 
Identical = equal masses
 
Hint 1: use the facts that momentum and kinetic energy are conserved, if the collision if perfectly elastic.

Hint 2: when there are more directions, use vectors, and then deal with their components, in order to keep things more clear.
 
ok, for the first question; since they're equal mass and hit directly, total energy is transferred to ball 2. Vball1 = 0, Vball2 = 4.4

Now, for the second problem I'm supposed to be using vectors to find the x and y components. I will attempt this one later - thanks.
 
mikefitz said:
ok, for the first question; since they're equal mass and hit directly, total energy is transferred to ball 2. Vball1 = 0, Vball2 = 4.4

Your notation is inconsistent - what exactly do you need to find in 1) ? The velocity of the second ball after the collision?

Edit. Actually, if the solution is correct, It doesn't matter.
 
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