What Initial Speed Is Required for a Volleyball to Just Clear the Net?

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The problem involves determining the initial speed required for a volleyball to just clear a net, given specific parameters such as the height of the net, the height at which the ball is struck, and the angle of projection. The context is rooted in kinematics, specifically projectile motion.

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  • Participants discuss the need to break down the initial velocity into vertical and horizontal components based on the angle of projection. There are attempts to formulate equations for both the vertical and horizontal motions, with some participants expressing confusion about how to incorporate time into their calculations.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to derive equations and substitute variables. There are indications of differing approaches to solving for time and initial velocity, with some participants questioning their calculations and seeking clarification on their methods.

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Participants note the challenge of working without a direct time value and the implications of using trigonometric functions based on the given angle. There is also mention of potential errors in calculations, indicating a need for careful verification of steps taken.

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Homework Statement



A regulation volleyball court is L = 18.0 m long and the net is d = 2.43 m high. A volleyball player strikes the ball a height h = 1.61 m directly above the back line, and the ball's initial velocity makes an angle θ = 49° with respect to the ground. At what initial speed must the ball be hit so that it just barely makes it over the net? (Assume the volleyball is a point object and is hit so that its path is parallel to the sideline, as seen from directly above the court.)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am really lost at how to figure out this one without time. I tried using the following equation since you are given the height it has to reach, and the acceleration (-9.8) and I think the final velocity would be zero:
<br /> v^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a \Delta x<br /> &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; but it doesn`t seem to work. I am thinking I have to calculate the time somehow, but I really can`t figure out how to go about doing that. Can anyone help?
 
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trumnation said:

Homework Statement



A regulation volleyball court is L = 18.0 m long and the net is d = 2.43 m high. A volleyball player strikes the ball a height h = 1.61 m directly above the back line, and the ball's initial velocity makes an angle θ = 49° with respect to the ground. At what initial speed must the ball be hit so that it just barely makes it over the net? (Assume the volleyball is a point object and is hit so that its path is parallel to the sideline, as seen from directly above the court.)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am really lost at how to figure out this one without time. I tried using the following equation since you are given the height it has to reach, and the acceleration (-9.8) and I think the final velocity would be zero:

v^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a \Delta x

but it doesn`t seem to work. I am thinking I have to calculate the time somehow, but I really can`t figure out how to go about doing that. Can anyone help?

It's not quite so simple.

First you need to determine the Vertical and Horizontal components of velocity based on the 49 degrees.

Then you can develop the x and y motion equations using the 18 m as the range and the height of the net as the height at the instant of clearance.

The equations

Y_{net} = Y_{serve} +V_y*t -1/2*g*t^2

X_{to.net} = V_x*t
 
Ok, how though, do I find the time? Or should I solve for t in the x equation and sub it in?
 
trumnation said:
Ok, how though, do I find the time? Or should I solve for t in the x equation and sub it in?

You should have equations with only initial velocity and time unknown.

Eliminate 1 and solve for the other.
 
Ok so I tried that, and I think I have an error somewhere because it doesn't work. Here is what I did:

t = 9/(Vsin49)

2.43 = 1.61 + Vcos49t - 0.5*9.8t^2
0.82 = Vcos49 * 9/Vsin49 - 4.9 * (9/Vsin49)^2

V = 7.9 m/s

I can't seem to find what I did wrong though..
 
trumnation said:
Ok so I tried that, and I think I have an error somewhere because it doesn't work. Here is what I did:

t = 9/(Vsin49)

2.43 = 1.61 + Vcos49t - 0.5*9.8t^2
0.82 = Vcos49 * 9/Vsin49 - 4.9 * (9/Vsin49)^2

V = 7.9 m/s

I can't seem to find what I did wrong though..

I calculate your equation differently.

Using Sin49 = .755 and Cos49=.656
I get: t=11.92/v

Substituting:
.82 = .656(11.92) - 4.9(11.92/V)2
.82 = 7.82 - 4.9(11.92/V)2
7 = 4.9(11.92/V)2
V2 = 4.9(11.92)2/7 = 99.46
V = 9.97 m/s
 

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