What Innovations Are You Thankful For . .?

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The discussion revolves around various innovations that participants are thankful for, reflecting on how these advancements have transformed daily life. The scope includes personal experiences, technological developments, and cultural products, touching on both practical and leisure aspects.

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  • Some participants express gratitude for basic conveniences such as refrigeration, indoor plumbing, and electricity, highlighting their impact on modern living.
  • Direct deposit and innovations in automotive technology, like powered windows, are noted as significant improvements in daily tasks.
  • Food innovations, including popular snacks and beverages, are mentioned as essential to participants' enjoyment of life.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of medical advancements, particularly vaccines, in improving health outcomes.
  • One participant shares their experience with a new refrigerator, discussing its design and features, while raising questions about its efficiency in different climates.
  • There is mention of advanced refrigerator technologies, such as smart features and touch-activated panels, with some skepticism about their practicality.
  • The transistor is highlighted as a groundbreaking innovation, with participants acknowledging its role in modern electronics.
  • Musical instruments, particularly guitars and amplifiers, are also recognized as vital innovations that enhance personal enjoyment.
  • Some participants reflect on the historical context of innovations, comparing past and present lifestyles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of various innovations, but there are multiple competing views regarding the significance and practicality of specific technologies, particularly in the context of modern appliances. The discussion remains unresolved on the effectiveness of advanced features in refrigerators and their actual benefits.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect personal preferences and subjective experiences, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes a mix of practical and whimsical innovations, indicating a broad interpretation of what constitutes an innovation worth appreciating.

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Readers interested in technology, lifestyle improvements, and cultural innovations may find this discussion relevant and engaging.

  • #61
Maybe its already been mentioned, but there is an old saying in that particular business that sewage and wastewater engineering on average do more for general public health than the healthcare system. At least, I think that particular invention is a bit underappreciated by many.
 
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The pedal-chain-sprocket drive, connected to wheels, has made a human on a bicycle by far the most energy-efficient self-powered traveler among land animals.
 
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  • #63
Filip Larsen said:
Maybe its already been mentioned, but there is an old saying in that particular business that sewage and wastewater engineering on average do more for general public health than the healthcare system. At least, I think that particular invention is a bit underappreciated by many.

I had a doctor say that to me once. If even a medico thinks it's so, against the promptings of professional pride then there must be at least a grain of truth.
 
  • #64
sysprog said:
The pedal-chain-sprocket drive, connected to wheels, has made a human on a bicycle by far the most energy-efficient self-powered traveler among land animals.

What would psychotic computers have to sing about, otherwise?
 
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cybernetichero said:
I had a doctor say that to me once. If even a medico thinks it's so, against the promptings of professional pride then there must be at least a grain of truth.

This is not a good operating principle.

Any group of people will have a variety of opinions, brilliant to insipid, on any give subject.
There are also a variety of possible adverse motivations: fame, greed, professional advancement, personal dislike/competition, twisted sense of humor...
Doctors are no different. (Nor are physicists, biologists, chemists, or what ever.)
The are plenty of examples of doctors (or any other group) with poor ideas, for example Andrew Wakefield, whom made up a connection between vaccines and autism, which has had bad results.

Putting your faith in some idea should be based on more than the profession of one of the ideas supporters.
The idea should be able stand on its own, in the cold light of thoughtful analysis.
 
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BillTre said:
This is not a good operating principle.

Any group of people will have a variety of opinions, brilliant to insipid, on any give subject.
There are also a variety of possible adverse motivations: fame, greed, professional advancement, personal dislike/competition, twisted sense of humor...
Doctors are no different. (Nor are physicists, biologists, chemists, or what ever.)
The are plenty of examples of doctors (or any other group) with poor ideas, for example Andrew Wakefield, whom made up a connection between vaccines and autism, which has had bad results.

Putting your faith in some idea should be based on more than the profession of one of the ideas supporters.
The idea should be able stand on its own, in the cold light of thoughtful analysis.

Well no. That shouldn't be taken to be any sort of appeal to authority. Too many doctors become (bad) MPs. On the other hand it's his job to educate his patients on a healthy lifestyle and it would be foolhardy to go to him and then dismiss what he says out of hand. Otherwise, why bother going to see him. It's a sort of middle ground.
As far as standing on it's own, it's plausible but neither history nor archaeology are exact sciences so our knowledge of the effects of sewers on health is anecdotal or circumstantial.
 
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  • #68
sysprog said:
The pedal-chain-sprocket drive, connected to wheels, has made a human on a bicycle by far the most energy-efficient self-powered traveler among land animals.

You want the visuals at 1.56
 
  • #69
cybernetichero said:
neither history nor archaeology are exact sciences
See Rutherford's dictum.
 
  • #70
BWV said:
artificial fertilizer
Modern agriculture is a system to convert fossil fuels into food.
 
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  • #71
Keith_McClary said:
Modern agriculture is a system to convert fossil fuels into food.
Dune: Hydraulic despotism.
 
  • #72
cybernetichero said:
We are using the greatest information retrieval system in the history of mankind to discuss which modern invention we are most grateful for. Just thought I would point that out.

I just had a mobile device related "lost time" episode and had a mental image of a Salvation Army band and the placards read, "Resist the Demon Browser".
 
  • #73
256bits said:
House of Parliament sauce is not even made in England anymore
Mine says "product of USA".
 
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kyphysics said:
I was just sitting back today thinking of how we live compared with people just 100-200 years ago (or, even people living today in less modernized parts of the world). I often complain of not having this or that and the nuisance of getting spam and fake emails. And, yet, something as simple as email (and a computer with word processing) is a truly remarkable luxury that people just 50 years ago did not have. Mail had to be sent by postal delivery. Word processing was done on cumbersome typewriters.

Air conditioning...indoor plumbing...refrigeration...hell, even electricity...are all quite amazing when compared to their absence just a few decades or hundred years ago.

I am thankful for the labor, creativity, and drive to innovate that so many people of the past had that have made my life so much better. . .Life is not perfect - yes, spam and fake emails annoy me - but I am so much more glad to have to deal with the troubles that innovations bring than to live life without them.

OMG, even Coca-Cola...Five Guys burgers...Lays potato chips...I am so thankful for these food innovations too! It would be torture to imagine not having access to my favorite foods ever again!
Communication is, by far, the greatest innovation ever. It is the basis for everything we know today. Without it, all other innovations are impossible. Without it, our perception of reality is not even possible. Gauge bosons communicate the fundamental forces and electrochemical reactions allow your neurons to communicate. The corpus callosum allows high bandwidth communications which results in hemispheric amalgamation to occur giving you a single consciousness. language is the next step after the corpus callosum which allows two minds to begin the formation of a single "master mind." The internet is the most recent iteration in this innovation's evolution, and it is on the cusp of another great revolution as soon as mankind figures out how to organize it the same way our brains are organized.
 
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