What is a black hole in 4th dimension looks like?

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This discussion explores the visual representation of a black hole in the fourth dimension as perceived by a three-dimensional observer. Participants reference the analogy of Mr. Square and Lord Sphere from Edwin Abbott's "Flatland" to illustrate how a four-dimensional object might appear in a lower dimension. The conversation highlights that while black holes are invisible, their effects can be observed through accretion disks and emitted electromagnetic radiation from surrounding matter. The complexity of understanding higher dimensions and the nature of black holes is emphasized, particularly regarding the confinement of matter within them.

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  • Understanding of dimensional theory, particularly the concept of dimensions beyond the third.
  • Familiarity with black hole physics, including accretion disks and electromagnetic radiation.
  • Knowledge of Edwin Abbott's "Flatland" and its implications for dimensional perception.
  • Basic principles of general relativity and how they relate to black holes.
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  • Research the properties of black holes, focusing on accretion disks and their observable effects.
  • Study the implications of higher-dimensional theories in physics, such as string theory.
  • Explore the concept of dimensional perception through literature, particularly "Flatland" by Edwin Abbott.
  • Investigate the electromagnetic radiation emitted by objects near black holes and its significance in astrophysics.
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Astrophysicists, science educators, students of physics, and anyone interested in the complexities of black holes and higher-dimensional theories.

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If there is a black hole in the 4th dimension, how will it looks like in the observer in 3rd dimension?
 
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You can't see a black hole, that's why its called a black hole or dark star. But assuming the black hole has visible accedation disks and high energy particles flying out of it:

Depends on if the observer or black hole is moving.

Remember Flatland... Mr. Square watches Lord Sphere move through his dimension, since Mr. Square sees everything 2 dimensionally, he sees Lord Sphere like if you were at the bottom at a pond scum and algae covered lake, and saw a hollow ball fall into it in slow motion. From directly underneath you would see a circle, then it gets bigger and bigger, but Mr. Square was a algae cell. He saw a small circle, that got bigger and bigger, then it hit its equator, and the big circle got smaller and smaller, as Lord Sphere moved silently an swifly through Mr. Square's flat piece-of-paper universe.

If a 4 dimensional being were to go through our universe, silently and swiftly like Lord Sphere... Dr. Blob would be something like... imagine a 3 dimensional amoeba, growing larger and larger, then smaller and smaller. To add some special effects, maybe make it look like liquid metal, with those little oil rainbow things at the end of its little psuedopods.

But I don't know what a black hole would look like...

Hope I explained it well!
Cheers,
Mk
 
Mk said:
You can't see a black hole, that's why its called a black hole or dark star. But assuming the black hole has visible accedation disks and high energy particles flying out of it:

Yes you can see a black hole indirectly. you can observe the EM-radiation emitted by an object that is falling the frozen star

marlon
 
You know what I don't get? Why people look at the fourth dimensions as something you can "enter". Why can we not live in all dimensions? Just the existence of black holes kind of sums it up. I mean, really? If all the matter is confined into that space and goes at first sight NOWHERE, where did it go?
 

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