What is an Example of a Matrix with Geometric Multiplicity Greater Than 1?

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The discussion revolves around finding an example of a matrix that has a geometric multiplicity greater than 1. Participants explore the concept of geometric multiplicity in relation to eigenvalues and provide examples to illustrate their points.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses surprise that geometric multiplicity is often 1 in their experience and seeks an example where it is greater than 1.
  • Another participant clarifies that geometric multiplicity is always less than or equal to algebraic multiplicity and provides a counterexample using the identity matrix, which has a geometric multiplicity equal to the dimension of the space.
  • A participant acknowledges the counterexample and seeks guidance on continuing their method for finding eigenvectors.
  • Another participant demonstrates how to reduce a matrix to row echelon form to find the null space, showing that the geometric multiplicity for their example is indeed 2.
  • A participant expresses understanding of the method after the explanation.

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There is no consensus on a single example, but participants agree that geometric multiplicity can be greater than 1. The discussion includes multiple viewpoints and examples without resolving all uncertainties.

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Participants rely on specific matrix examples and their properties, but there may be limitations in their assumptions about the generality of these examples.

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after finding out what geometric multiplicity was, I was surprised to notice that in every question I'd done it was always 1.
So I'm trying to prove an example with g.m. > 1 to see why it works.
I've found a matrix which definitely has an eigenvalue with g.m. = 2. I've checked everything with WolframAlpha, so the following is correct:

Matrix A =
<br /> \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> 5 &amp; 4 &amp; 2 \\<br /> 4 &amp; 5 &amp; 2 \\<br /> 2 &amp; 2 &amp; 2 \end{array} \right)
Determinant = 10

Characteristic polynomial = -((x-10) (x-1)^2)

So eigenvalues =
10
1 < -- with a.m. = 2, and g.m. = 2

So find the eigenvectors to find I'd start with:
(A - 1 * I ) v = 0, the matrix being:
<br /> \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> 4 &amp; 4 &amp; 2 \\<br /> 4 &amp; 4 &amp; 2 \\<br /> 2 &amp; 2 &amp; 1 \end{array} \right)
 
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It is certainly not true that the geometric multiplicity is always 1 for each eigenvalue. All you know is that the geometric multiplicity is always less than or equal to the algebraic multiplicity; there is nothing that says, however, that the geometric multiplicity must be 1. Recall that if ##A## is a matrix and ##\lambda## is an eigenvalue of ##A## then the geometric multiplicity of ##\lambda## is ##\dim E_{\lambda}## where ##E_{\lambda}## is the associated eigenspace.

As a simple counter example, consider ##A = I##. The only eigenvalue of ##I## is ##\lambda = 1 ## and every ##v\in \mathbb{R}^{n}## is an eigenvector of ##I## so ##E_{\lambda = 1} = \mathbb{R}^{n}## which has a geometric multiplicity of ##n## which is not 1 in general.
 
WannabeNewton said:
It is certainly not true that the geometric multiplicity is always 1 for each eigenvalue.
I know, I was just looking for a normal example that showed otherwise.
Thank you for your counter example

How do I continue with my method?
 
Well your example is also quite easy in fact. Taking ##B = \begin{pmatrix}
4 & 4 &2 \\
4& 4 &2 \\
2 & 2 & 1
\end{pmatrix}##
we can very easily put this in reduced row echelon form as ##C = \begin{pmatrix}
0 & 0 &0 \\
0& 0 &0 \\
2 & 2 & 1
\end{pmatrix}##. Thus, the solutions to ##Cv = 0## are given by ##v_{1},v_{2} = \text{arbitrary}## and ##v_{3} = -2v_1 -2v_2## where ##v = (v_1,v_2,v_3)^{T}##. Therefore, setting ##v_1 = t,v_2 = s##, we can write any ##v\in \text{Null}C## as ##v = t(1,0,-2)^{T} + s(0,1,-2)^{T}## i.e. ##E_{\lambda = 1} = \text{Null}C = \text{Span}\{(1,0,-2)^{T},(0,1,-2)^{T}\}## which of course has a geometric multiplicity of 2.
 
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I see how it works now, thank you
 

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