What is 'completeness' (function space)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of 'completeness' in the context of function spaces, specifically L^{p}(a,b). Participants explore the implications of completeness for sets of functions that depend on a parameter lambda, questioning whether orthogonality is necessary or if linear independence suffices.

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  • One participant asks whether the completeness of a set of functions f(λx) in L^{p}(a,b) requires the functions to form an orthogonal basis or if linear independence for different values of lambda is sufficient.
  • Another participant suggests that completeness generally implies there is no other non-trivial vector that is linearly independent of the set vectors.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that completeness in this context means 'maximal spanning', where every element of L^{p}(a,b) can be expressed as a linear combination of the functions, extending the concept of 'basis' from finite to infinite dimensions.
  • One participant notes that orthogonality is not well-defined when p ≠ 2.
  • Another participant clarifies that the discussion is about the completeness of a set of vectors in L^{p}, distinct from the completeness of the metric space L^{p} itself.

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Participants express differing views on the requirements for completeness, particularly regarding the necessity of orthogonality versus linear independence. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the topic.

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Some participants highlight the distinction between the completeness of a set of functions and the completeness of the metric space L^{p}, indicating a potential area of confusion in the discussion.

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given a set of functions that depend on a parameter lambda [tex]f(\lambda x)[/tex] , how can be proved or what does it mean that this set of functions is COMPLETE in [tex]L^{p} (a,b)[/tex] do the functions [tex]f(\lambda x)[/tex] need to form an orthogonal basis or it is enough that for diffrent values of lambda ,there is a linear independence.
 
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I'm not sure about sets which are not orthogonal, but I think that completness generally says that there is no other non-trivial vector which is linearly independent of the set vectors.
 
In this context, completeness usually means 'maximal spanning', i.e. every other element of L^p(a,b) should be expressible as (not necessarily finite) linear combination of these 'functions'. It is an extension of the concept of 'basis' from finite-dimensional linear algebra to infinite dimensions. The orthogonal (or even orthonormal) requirement usually is explicitly added, as in "complete orthonormal set".

See e.g. here.
 
Picky aside: orthogonality isn't well-defined when p != 2.
 
zetafunction said:
given a set of functions that depend on a parameter lambda [tex]f(\lambda x)[/tex] , how can be proved or what does it mean that this set of functions is COMPLETE in [tex]L^{p} (a,b)[/tex] do the functions [tex]f(\lambda x)[/tex] need to form an orthogonal basis or it is enough that for diffrent values of lambda ,there is a linear independence.

The L^p(a,b) is a metric space. The space of functions is complete if each Cauchy sequence converges in the L^p metric to another function in the space.
 
@wofsy: that's a different type of completeness; here we're talking about completeness of a set of vectors in L^p, not of the (metric) space L^p itself!
See the link in my previous post.
 

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