What is her speed relative to the ice surface?

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The problem involves a girl walking on a plank that is free to slide on a frictionless surface, raising questions about relative motion and the application of momentum principles.

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  • Participants discuss the forces involved and question the relationship between force, speed, and mass. There is an exploration of whether momentum plays a role in understanding the scenario.

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A 44 kg girl is standing on a plank that has a mass of 170 kg. The plank, originally at rest, is free to slide on a frozen lake, which is a flat, frictionless supporting surface. The girl begins to walk along the plank at a constant speed of 1.37 m/s relative to the plank.
What is her speed relative to the ice surface?

My attempt:
The horizontal force the girl exerts on the plank is f=1.37(44)=60.28N
so the speed of the plank relative to the ice should be 60.28=170a a=.354ms
and her speed relative to the ice should be 1.37-.354=1.016
but this is incorrect, what am i doing wrong?
 
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Ry122 said:
The horizontal force the girl exerts on the plank is f=1.37(44)=60.28N

Here's at least one error in your thinking: How can a force be a speed times a mass?
 


where do i begin then?
 


would momentum be involved?
 

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