What is it like to study Optics and be an Optical Engineer?

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The discussion centers around the experiences and insights related to studying optics and pursuing a career as an optical engineer, particularly in the context of programs available at the University of Arizona and other institutions. Participants share their perspectives on the field, potential career paths, and specific areas of research and application within optics.

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  • One participant notes the strong reputation of the University of Arizona's Optical Sciences and Engineering program, mentioning its historical context and the current demand for traditional lens design skills.
  • Another participant highlights opportunities in national labs and military contractors, suggesting that a master's degree can be beneficial for career prospects in optics.
  • Discussion includes insights about working on advanced technologies, such as submarine periscopes and lasers for sensing applications, with emphasis on the complexities and ethical considerations involved in military applications.
  • A participant expresses interest in pursuing a course in optoelectronics, indicating a desire for a challenging academic experience.
  • There is mention of the University of Rochester as a comparable institution for optics studies, with a note on the colder climate compared to Arizona.
  • Recent research areas, such as terahertz waves and their applications in security, are introduced as emerging fields within optics.

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Participants generally agree on the value of pursuing optics as a field of study and the potential career paths available, but there are varying opinions on specific areas of focus and the nature of work in optical engineering. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple viewpoints presented.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the exact nature of work in optical engineering, particularly for new graduates, and there are references to the evolving landscape of optics education and applications.

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Individuals considering a degree in optics, those interested in careers in optical engineering, and students exploring advanced research areas in optics may find this discussion informative.

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I live in Tucson, AZ and I'm going to be going to the University of Arizona in a little bit, at the U of A there is an Optical Sciences and Engineering program (BS, MS, and PhD) that is supposed to be pretty good. I haven't been able to find anything online about majoring in Optics or being an Optical engineer so I was wondering if anybody could help me out and tell me what it's like to either major in it or be an optical engineer.
 
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UA has a very good reputation for this - thanks to Roger Angel's mirror lab.
It depends what kind of optical engineering you want to do.
Optics rather got dropped off the general syllabus in most places for a couple of generations, modern optics (lasers, fibres, holograms) was cool and sexy but real lens design was forgotten about.

There is a demand for proper traditional lens design optical engineers - the current crop all seem to be about 80. Lens design packages like Zemax make the work easier but it's still hard to find people who know what they are doing.

All the new modern optics stuff also needs people who actually understand how to engineer it into products - and if optical computing ever takes off !
 
It's also possible to work in the field at national labs, in military labs, and for industrial contractors (like Raytheon). I used to work for the Air Force Research Labs designing lasers. Overall, it's a good field to get into, even (and perhaps especially) if you are just planning on pursuing a master's degree.
 
I've listened to some presentations by an engineer from a local company that is the premier supplier of submarine periscopes to the US and allies.

Quite a bit of technology that goes into a $15 million periscope - apparently the new units no longer penetrate the hull.

http://www.eo.kollmorgen.com

I'm planning to take a course in optoelectronics as a senior elective.
Downloaded the class-notes for a previous section and it seems like an intense course.
Can't wait!
 
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Thanx all...Yeah I live in Tucson, AZ where raytheon makes lots of missiles and stuff and if I got into Optics I'd probably try to work there first (better salary...cooler stuff like lasers and laser guidance systems for missiles and other cool stuff like that). Also I'd love to get a job at a national labratory, like Los Alamos...top secret military technology sounds fun to work on! (yeah I've been watching Eureka so I prolly have a glorified picture of its actually awesomeness. I'm planning to at least get my masters (just because a lot of jobs require one and you start out making like 10k more) and I'm going to wait until I get to that point in my degree to decide if I want to get my PhD also...so I'm just trying to learn as much as I possibly can.

Can you tell me what kind of things you were actually designing/building as a new engineer? I really don't know what they actually do other than make more and more powerful lasers...I'm curious

thanx
 
In my case, I was working in a group that was developing lasers for sensing applications -- both lasers that would be used for imaging, and lasers that would be used for chemical detection (i.e. be in a region of the spectrum where a hcemical of interest had strong absorption lines). In most cases, the desire was also to have laser sources that would be more "eyesafe" -- there are by by-laws associated with the Geneva Convention about trying to limit blinding the enemy (it's ok to kill them, but you should avoid unnecessarily blinding them)... and of course you also don't want to blind your own troops. (Eyesafeness is related to the frequency/color of light, as well as the intensity.)

Other parts of the same building I worked in were testing optics that would work with these sources and creating systems that would go onto test flights.

It certainly was a fun place to work... but I was glad I worked in the basic development, so almost everything I worked on is in the public domain of knowledge... and the applications for the sources I used were also probably fairly noble -- let's hit the right target and not unnecessarily hurt people.
 
Yeah...that sounds pretty cool! I guess I really wouldn't mind doing that!
thanx
 
If you want to go on for graduate degrees after your B.S., and want a change of scenery, University of Rochester's (NY) optics program is on a par with Arizona. They are perhaps the two top optics programs in the USA.

(Note that winters in upstate NY tend, on average, to be slightly cooler than in Arizona. :smile:)

One of the new, fairly recent areas of research is in terahertz (THz) waves, the spectrum that lies between infrared and radar, for both generation and detection/imagin at these frequencies. Important applications in homeland/airport security, for one.

Arizona seems to be active in this area:
http://www.ibridgenetwork.org/arizona/UA07-081-Tunable-Terahertz-Radiation-Emitter-Based

google terahertz waves, or thz waves, to find more.
 

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