What is log (100)? Bachelor of Engineering? Civil Field?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the question of what log(100) means, particularly in the context of different logarithmic bases. Participants explore the implications of base selection and its relevance in various fields of study, including engineering and mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the question lacks meaning without specifying the logarithmic base, suggesting that this is a fundamental point but not particularly interesting.
  • Another participant states that historically, "log" has meant natural logarithm, while in educational contexts, it often refers to base 10. They emphasize that context usually clarifies which base is intended.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that in arithmetic, base 10 is typically used, whereas in calculus, base e is preferred. They mention that base 10 is often denoted simply as "log," while base e is denoted as "ln."
  • One participant expresses a personal habit of using log to mean base 10 but acknowledges a shift towards using it for the natural logarithm, citing a suggestion from another user. They present a mathematical expression involving both the principal value of the natural logarithm and its multivalued nature in complex analysis.
  • The same participant raises a concern about the use of the word "is" in relation to the definition of logarithms, emphasizing the inverse relationship between exponentiation and logarithmic functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the meaning of log(100) without specifying the base. Multiple competing views regarding the interpretation of logarithmic notation and its historical context remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of context in determining the base of logarithms, noting that different fields may adopt different conventions. There is also mention of the multivalued nature of logarithms in complex analysis, which may not be universally understood.

What is log (100) ?

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Without trying to lean anyone to either answer, I will post WHY I asked this question after I gather some data from the poll. thanks. Pretty simple question:

What is log (100) ?

If you can, please post what degree you have and what field, for example:
Bachelor of Engineering: Civil

Thanks.
 
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Your question is meaningless without specifying what base you are using. I assume that's your point but it's not a very interesting one.
 
You should just write what you are thinking. Historically, log has meant natural log. Nowadays, its means log base 10. This is the case in early math education more than it is in research and higher science where log can still mean the natural log. Usually with the context its quite clear (sometimes, the difference doesn't matter at all). If you are in college algebra log means base 10. If you are using a calculator log means base 10. If you are viewing Boltzmann's tombstone log means base e.
 
When doing arithmetic using logs, base 10 is used. When doing calculus, base e is used. To distinguish sometimes base 10 is written log, while base e is written ln.
 
caper_26 said:
Without trying to lean anyone to either answer, I will post WHY I asked this question after I gather some data from the poll. thanks. Pretty simple question:

What is log (100) ?

If you can, please post what degree you have and what field, for example:
Bachelor of Engineering: Civil

Thanks.
Neither. Typically, out of habit, I use ##\log## to mean the base 10 logarithm. I've been meaning to break this habit ever since micromass told me that it was more agreeable with modern notation to use ##\log## for the natural logarithm. Now is as good a time as ever to do so, I guess.

##\log(100)=\operatorname{Log}(100)+2\pi i n##, where ##\operatorname{Log}## is the principle value of the natural logarithm and ##n\in\mathbb{Z}##.

Your use of the word "is" along with the truncation of the decimal expansion of ##\operatorname{Log}(100)## disturbs me.

Remember that we define ##\log## as the inverse of exponentiation. Thus, if ##e^x=y##, then ##\log(y)=x##. Observe: $$e^t=e^t\cdot 1 \\ e^t=e^te^{2\pi i n}\quad (n\in\mathbb{Z}) \\ e^t=e^{t+2\pi i n} \\ \log(x)=t+2\pi i n \quad (\text{Here we have made the substitution } x=e^t).$$ We might even define, from this case, ##\operatorname{Log}(x)=t##. The point of this is that the natural logarithm is NOT a function from complex numbers to complex numbers. Instead, it is multivalued (unless we define it on something called a Riemann surface).
 

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