Can IStill Get Hired as a Civil Engineer at 40 with Prior Experience?

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The discussion centers around the employment prospects for an individual considering a civil engineering degree at the age of 40, particularly in light of prior experience in surveying and related fields. Participants explore the implications of age, prior work experience, and local job market conditions on hiring opportunities for newly minted civil engineers.

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  • Some participants suggest that the employment prospects for a newly minted civil engineer in their late 40s may be similar to those of younger graduates, particularly in roles that require interaction with surveyors.
  • Others highlight that local job market conditions, including supply and demand, can significantly affect job opportunities, especially for older candidates with geographical constraints.
  • It is noted that older candidates may have higher salary expectations, which could limit their job options compared to younger graduates.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the impact of age on hiring prospects, questioning at what age the encouraging responses might shift to suggest it is "too late" to pursue a new engineering degree.
  • A participant mentions the potential for older graduates to leverage their prior work experience to secure positions above entry-level, depending on the specifics of the job market.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the employment prospects for older civil engineering graduates, with multiple competing views regarding the impact of age, prior experience, and local job market conditions remaining evident throughout the discussion.

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Participants acknowledge that geographical constraints and local job market dynamics play a crucial role in employment outcomes, but do not resolve the complexities surrounding age-related hiring challenges.

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Hi guys and girls,

So I have a 4 year degree in surveying (Spatial Science) and I'm considering studying for a civil engineering degree.

The maths and physics units already studied result in all but one math unit to complete.

I also get recognition of prior learning for some of my other units.

I have worked alongside civil engineers in high-rise construction, road works, bridges, etc and already work with CAD (Auto CAD - Civil 3D) and use engineering drawings.

I see this degree as the next natural progression if you will.

My question is, what are my employment prospects as a civil engineer in my late 40's (studying a half load with some units offered in summer school)?

Thank you in advance
 
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MatureAgeStudent said:
what are my employment prospects as a civil engineer in my late 40's

In the US, same as they are for any other newly minted civil engineer. Possibly better for jobs requiring a lot of interaction with surveyors.
 
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Welcome to the PF. :smile:
MatureAgeStudent said:
The maths and physics units already studied result in all but one math unit to complete.
Sorry, I can't unabiguously parse your sentence. Does this mean that you only have one math class to complete (which one?), or does it mean that you have all but one left to complete?

I agree with V50, I think you should do well in school and do very well in the job market, based on your experience. :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

Sorry, I can't unabiguously parse your sentence. Does this mean that you only have one math class to complete (which one?), or does it mean that you have all but one left to complete?

I agree with V50, I think you should do well in school and do very well in the job market, based on your experience. :smile:

I apologize for any ambiguity.

I have recognition of prior learning for the maths and physics units (credit from covering the same subjects in my surveying degree) for 3 of the 4 units (with advanced calculus remaining to be completed), and a credit for a surveying unit.

I have all other units requiring completion (starting in 2020).

Thank you both for your encouragement and feedback.
 
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All job markets are local. Most older students have geographical constraints - needing or wanting to find a job near where they already live rather than conducting a nation wide job search. The laws of supply and demand operate on every local job market. If you have geographical constraints and are in an area of high supply or lower demand, then you'll have a harder time. As a newly minted engineer, GPA will matter a lot in a tougher market, as will the reputation of the school that grants the degree. In high demand local markets, those details matter less.

Newly minted engineers who are older with work experience in other fields also tend to have higher salary requirements. This also narrows the field considerably. Finding an $80k job as a newly minted engineer is a lot harder than finding a $50k job.
 
Dr. Courtney said:
Newly minted engineers who are older with work experience in other fields also tend to have higher salary requirements. This also narrows the field considerably. Finding an $80k job as a newly minted engineer is a lot harder than finding a $50k job.
Vanadium 50 said:
In the US, same as they are for any other newly minted civil engineer. Possibly better for jobs requiring a lot of interaction with surveyors.
It will depend a lot on the specifics of the current and new job. There could be substantial overlap, providing substantial opportunity to start well above entry level or advance very rapidly.
 
It is an interesting question, though. The OP asked
My question is, what are my employment prospects as a civil engineer in my late 40's
what if instead, it was "late 50's"? How about "late 60's"? Somewhere there is a line, where the encouraging responses would flip over to, "you're too late."

I am not suggesting 40's is too late. But I would advise the OP to get on with it.
 
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gmax137 said:
It is an interesting question, though. The OP asked

what if instead, it was "late 50's"? How about "late 60's"? Somewhere there is a line, where the encouraging responses would flip over to, "you're too late."

I am not suggesting 40's is too late. But I would advise the OP to get on with it.

I my mind, the issue is with diminishing returns on the money and effort to earn the degree due to the length of working life that remains. But those are trade-offs for the individual to weigh and make for themselves. But "you're too late" is not in my vocabulary. If my own mother (late 70s) wanted to return to school for an engineering degree, my advice would be "go for it" since she'd just be spending my inheritance, keeping herself busy, and being mentally engaged. Return on the investment would not be a concern in that case.
 
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I agree with @Dr. Courtney, but to be fair the OP asked about "employment prospects." I think getting hired as a "new engineer" at 70 (or 65, or 60...) would be tough.
 

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