What is the acceleration of the elevator?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of an elevator with a given mass and tension in the cable while moving upward. The problem involves concepts from dynamics, specifically the net force acting on the elevator and the effects of gravity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to consider both the tension in the cable and the gravitational force acting on the elevator. There are suggestions to draw a free-body diagram to visualize the forces involved. Questions are raised about how to properly account for gravity in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, pointing out errors in calculations and clarifying the correct approach to finding the net force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of including gravitational force in the calculations, and there is a recognition of the need to correct the mass used in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the calculations and the mass of the elevator, with participants questioning assumptions and the setup of the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their understanding of the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement



While an elevator of mass 2442 kg moves upward, the tension in the cable is 34.2 kN

Homework Equations



(a) What is the ?

The Attempt at a Solution


a= f/m
a= 34200N/2442kg =14.0
 
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Your answer is not correct. What is the net force? You've forgotten about gravity.
 
Yes, as hage567 already said, you've forgotten about gravity.

Any time you have a question that deals with forces, it's a really good idea to draw a free-body diagram. Draw the object as a dot and then draw arrows representing the forces on the object.

So what would the free-body diagram look like here? You have an elevator with two forces acting on it (if we ignore friction). If we assume the elevator is traveling perpendicular to the surface of the earth, the tension force pulls straight up, and gravity pulls straight down. They have different magnitudes, however.

How do you think you will take the force of gravity into account?

You are right about how to calculate the acceleration once you know the net force acting on the elevator, though.
 
hey thanks guys this is first time physics really confused however I think i got the answer but still kind of wrong this is what i did 34200-2442*9.81=1024

F=1024
m=23956

f/m =1024/23956 =0.42m/s^2
the answer should be 4.2m/s^2 i know I m little off calculation what am i doing wrong
 
Looks like the first thing you did wrong was that 34200-(2442*9.81)=10243.98 N, not 1024 N.

Also, why is the mass of the elevator now 23956 kg? It should be only 2442 kg.

So, you have (10243.98 N / 2442 kg) = 4.1949 m/s^2 or 4.2 m/s^2.

I hope this helps.
 

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