What Is the Age of Rock Using Potassium-Argon Dating?

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The discussion revolves around the application of potassium-argon dating to determine the age of a piece of solidified lava. The original poster presents a scenario involving the decay of potassium-40 to argon-40 and provides a specific ratio of these isotopes found in the sample.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to set up equations based on the decay of potassium to argon, but expresses uncertainty about their calculations leading to an incorrect age estimate. Some participants question the initial conditions and definitions of variables used in the equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the definitions of variables and the nature of the decay process. There is a recognition of a misunderstanding regarding the initial amounts of argon and potassium, which has led to confusion in the calculations. Guidance has been offered to help correct the original poster's approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the initial conditions in radioactive decay problems, particularly in the context of geological dating techniques. There is an acknowledgment of potential misinterpretations of the decay process and the notation used in the equations.

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Homework Statement


The technique known as potassium-argon dating is used to date old lava flows. The potassium isotope 40K has a 1.28 billion year half-life and is naturally present as very low levels. 40K decays by beta emission into 40Ar. Argon is a gas, and there is no argon in flowing lava because the gas escapes. Once the lava solidifies, any argon produced in the decay is trapped inside and cannot escape. A geologist brings you a piece of solidified lava in which you find the 40Ar/40K ratio to be 0.12. What is the age of the rock


Homework Equations


N(t) = N(0)(1/2)t/t1/2
r = ln2/t1/2[/SUP]


The Attempt at a Solution


Here's what i have so far.
NAr is the number of argon atoms in the sample
NK is the number of pottasium atoms in the sample
K0 is the original number of pottassium atoms in the sample.

NAr/NK =0.12 ===> NAr = 0.12NK
Nk0 = NAr + Nk
These two equations combined give NK0 = 1.12Nk
and since Nk = NAr/0.12
===> NK0 = NAr1.12/0.12

Plugging this into the equation gives:

NAr = NAr1.12/0.12(0.5)t/t1/2
0.12/1.12 = (0.5)t/t1/2
T = T1/2(ln(0.12/1.12)/ln(0.5))

This gives me 4.1 billion years which isn't right.
 
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bmxicle said:

Homework Equations


N(t) = N(0)(1/2)t/t1/2

What is N(t)?

ehild
 
ah sorry i guess that's not normal notation. N(t) is just the number of decayed particles as a function of time, so in this case it's NAr
 
Do you think that the number of Ar atoms is No at the beginning of the decay, and it decreases with time? Is not it just the opposite? ehild
 
I don't think that's what i have up there--and if i do that would explain the wrong answer. The number NK0 ie. the initial number of potassium atoms in the rock when the lava cooled is going to be equal to the number of Argon atoms (atoms that underwent decay) plus the number of undecayed potassium atoms Nk.
 
It is the number of the potassium atoms that decreases exponentially, so your N(t) means the number of 40K atoms still present at time t.

ehild
 
Yup that's what I was doing wrong; don't know why i got so flipped around on that. Thanks for your help.
 

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