What is the Angle Between Vectors Method?

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The discussion centers on finding the vector that represents a "half Inuit, half Bantu" population, with participants debating whether to use the arithmetic or geometric mean. The consensus is that the arithmetic mean, represented as (1/2)I + (1/2)B, is appropriate for combining the vectors. The main challenge is to find a mix of these populations that is closest to the English population vector, leading to the formulation of a variable t that represents the mix. Participants discuss using the dot product to minimize the angle between the resulting vector and the English vector, ultimately leading to the conclusion that the angle should be minimized rather than the distance. The conversation concludes with a focus on ensuring that the angle between the vectors is well-defined within the context of their mathematical properties.
  • #51
t_n_p said:
-1 to 1.....

Exactly.

So using that same idea, when is \theta well defined in the dot product formula?
 
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  • #52
-1 to 1...LOL
 
  • #53
t_n_p said:
-1 to 1...LOL

But what has to be between -1 and 1, for \theta to be defined? :wink:

It was x in that formula I gave... but in the dot product formula it is...?
 
  • #54
for theta to be defined, http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5728/untitledjq2kn7.jpg has to be between -1 and 1
 
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  • #55
t_n_p said:
for theta to be defined, http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5728/untitledjq2kn7.jpg has to be between -1 and 1

Exactly. :smile: So that's what you need to prove, to show that \theta is well defined... you need to show that that expression is between -1 and 1 for any two 4-vectors v and w.

It's a tough problem if you're solving from scratch... There a theorem called the "Cauchy-Schwarz inequality" that shows that this is true almost immediately... Have you covered it in your course?
 
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  • #56
Havn't learned the theorem. If it's essenetial to the question, I don't know why they ask non relevant questions...:confused:
 
  • #57
t_n_p said:
Havn't learned the theorem. If it's essenetial to the question, I don't know why they ask non relevant questions...:confused:

Hmmm... it might also be called by another name...

Basically the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality says

|\overrightarrow{v}.\overrightarrow{w}| \le |\overrightarrow{v}||\overrightarrow{w}|

and from that the result you want follows immediately...

you've probably got something like that explained or proven in your text. Look it up in your text or online...

did your tutor say anything else about this problem?
 
  • #58
I'll catch you later t_n_p. I got to :zzz:
 
  • #59
Never seen anything remotely like that before! My tutor just said try best, don't worry too much if I can't do it.
 
  • #60
learningphysics said:
I'll catch you later t_n_p. I got to :zzz:

no worries, thanks alot!
 
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