What is the angular frequency of oscillation?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular frequency of oscillation for a physical pendulum with given angular acceleration and displacement. The relevant equation, α = -ω²θ, is highlighted as essential for solving the problem, as it relates angular acceleration to angular displacement. The user initially attempted to use a different formula, ω² = (ωo)² + 2αθ, which is not applicable due to the changing nature of acceleration in this scenario. Clarifications emphasize that while certain formulas cannot be used directly, substituting known relationships can lead to the correct expression needed for the solution. The final answer for the angular frequency of oscillation is confirmed to be 44 rad/s.
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Homework Statement
At the instant its angular displacement is 0.32 rad, the angular acceleration of a physical pendulum is -630 rad/s2. What is its angular frequency of oscillation?
A) 6.6 rad/s
B) 14 rad/s
C) 20 rad/s
D) 44 rad/s
E) 200 rad/s

The answer is D
Relevant Equations
ω^2 = (ωo)^2 + 2αθ
ω^2 - (ωo)^2
= 2 (-630) (0.32)
= -403.2

This is what I have now and I stuck here.
 
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hidemi said:
Homework Statement:: At the instant its angular displacement is 0.32 rad, the angular acceleration of a physical pendulum is -630 rad/s2. What is its angular frequency of oscillation?
A) 6.6 rad/s
B) 14 rad/s
C) 20 rad/s
D) 44 rad/s
E) 200 rad/s

The answer is D
Relevant Equations:: ω^2 = (ωo)^2 + 2αθ

ω^2 - (ωo)^2
= 2 (-630) (0.32)
= -403.2

This is what I have now and I stuck here.
During simple harmonic motion (SHM), acceleration (α) changes. "ω^2 = (ωo)^2 + 2αθ" is for constant angular accelelation, so can't be used in this question.

For linear SHM in the x-direction say, the essential relationships (the things that make it simple harmonic motion) are that:
- the magnitude of acceleration (a) is proportional to the magnitude of displacement (x) and
- acceleration acts in the opposite direction to the displacement.

This can be expressed as: a = -kx where k is a positive constant.. Note that a and x are functions of time, a(t) and x(t). With some calculus you can show k = ω² where ω is the angular frequency. So we can write
a = -ω²x
This is a key formula you need to understand/learn.

For rotational SHM (e.g. thinking about a pendulum in terms of angular changes) the equivalent formula is
α = -ω²θ
(It's basically the same formula as "a = -ω²x" but α(t) is angular acceleration and θ(t) is angular displacement.)

If you use this formula you can find ω.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
During simple harmonic motion (SHM), acceleration (α) changes. "ω^2 = (ωo)^2 + 2αθ" is for constant angular accelelation, so can't be used in this question.

For linear SHM in the x-direction say, the essential relationships (the things that make it simple harmonic motion) are that:
- the magnitude of acceleration (a) is proportional to the magnitude of displacement (x) and
- acceleration acts in the opposite direction to the displacement.

This can be expressed as: a = -kx where k is a positive constant.. Note that a and x are functions of time, a(t) and x(t). With some calculus you can show k = ω² where ω is the angular frequency. So we can write
a = -ω²x
This is a key formula you need to understand/learn.

For rotational SHM (e.g. thinking about a pendulum in terms of angular changes) the equivalent formula is
α = -ω²θ
(It's basically the same formula as "a = -ω²x" but α(t) is angular acceleration and θ(t) is angular displacement.)

If you use this formula you can find ω.
Thank you. I think I got it but just want to double check:

θ = A * sin(ωt)
ω = Aω * cos(ωt)
α = -Aω^2 * sin(ωt)

the last formula is what you were referring, correct?
 
hidemi said:
Thank you. I think I got it but just want to double check:

θ = A * sin(ωt)
ω = Aω * cos(ωt)
α = -Aω^2 * sin(ωt)

the last formula is what you were referring, correct?
Yes, use the last equation. It's a straightforward substitution.
 
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kuruman said:
Yes, use the last equation. It's a straightforward substitution.
Thank you so much.
 
hidemi said:
Thank you. I think I got it but just want to double check:

θ = A * sin(ωt)
ω = Aω * cos(ωt)
α = -Aω^2 * sin(ωt)

the last formula is what you were referring, correct?
Hi @hidemi. I'm not sure if there is some confusion here, so I'm adding this. The three formulae you list are:
θ = A sin(ωt)
ω = Aω cos(ωt)
α = -Aω² sin(ωt)

You cannot use the last formula directly, because you do not know A or t.

However note that if you substitute "θ = A sin(ωt)" (the first formula) into the last formula, you can easily show that α = -ω²θ. And "α = -ω²θ" is the formula you need to solve this problem.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
Hi @hidemi. I'm not sure if there is some confusion here, so I'm adding this. The three formulae you list are:
θ = A sin(ωt)
ω = Aω cos(ωt)
α = -Aω² sin(ωt)

You cannot use the last formula directly, because you do not know A or t.

However note that if you substitute "θ = A sin(ωt)" (the first formula) into the last formula, you can easily show that α = -ω²θ. And "α = -ω²θ" is the formula you need to solve this problem.
Thanks for the clarification!
 

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