What is the Angular Speed of the Bob?

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1. Relevant information

A bob of mass 0.5kg is attached to one end of a light inextensible string of length 0.500 m, whose other end is attached to a fixed pivot. The bob performs uniform circular motion in a horizontal plane, with the string making an angle of 30.0° with the vertical.

2. Question

What is the angular speed of this circular motion?
Hint: you can begin by using Newton's second law in the vertical direction to find the tension in the string.)

The Attempt at a Solution



Tension in string
F Cos 30 = 0.5 x 9.81
F = (0.5 x 9.81) / Cos 30
F = 5.66N

Radius of circle must be 0.5x Sin 30 = 0.25m

F = mass x radius x angular speed^2
Angular speed = Sqrt ( 5.66 / (0.5 x 0.25))
Angular speed = 6.72 rad s^-1

Have I done this right?
 
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David Swift said:
Tension in string
F Cos 30 = 0.5 x 9.81
F = (0.5 x 9.81) / Cos 30
F = 5.66N

Radius of circle must be 0.5x Sin 30 = 0.25m

F = mass x radius x angular speed^2
Angular speed = Sqrt ( 5.66 / (0.5 x 0.25))
Angular speed = 6.72 rad s^-1

Have I done this right?
Almost. Realize that the centripetal acceleration is horizontal, so only the horizontal component of the tension provides the centripetal force.
 
Doc Al said:
Almost. Realize that the centripetal acceleration is horizontal, so only the horizontal component of the tension provides the centripetal force.
I am not sure what you mean by that. Have I used a wrong equation?
 
David Swift said:
I am not sure what you mean by that. Have I used a wrong equation?
When you used ##F = m \omega^2 r##, you used the entire tension as the force. But only the horizontal component of the tension creates the centripetal acceleration.
 
Doc Al said:
When you used ##F = m \omega^2 r##, you used the entire tension as the force. But only the horizontal component of the tension creates the centripetal acceleration.
F(x) = ((m x g ) x Xcomponent / length
F (x) = (0.5 x 9.81 x 0.5 sin 30 ) / 0.5m = 2.22 rad s^-1
 
David Swift said:
F(x) = ((m x g ) x Xcomponent / length
You seem to have taken a step backwards. Your original equation for tension(F) was correct:
David Swift said:
F Cos 30 = 0.5 x 9.81
Doc Al is telling you this equation is wrong (assuming F is still the tension):
David Swift said:
F = mass x radius x angular speed^2
Please try to post a correct version.