What is the angular velocity and kinetic energy of a cockroach-disk system?

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The problem involves a cockroach and a uniform disk system, focusing on the concepts of angular velocity and kinetic energy as the cockroach moves from the rim to the center of the disk. The discussion centers around the principles of angular momentum and rotational inertia.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of angular momentum as a key principle. There are questions about calculating the rotational inertia of the cockroach and the disk, including the application of the parallel axis theorem. Some participants express uncertainty about the initial steps and the relationship between angular velocity and kinetic energy.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to calculate rotational inertia and angular velocity. Some guidance has been offered regarding treating the cockroach as a point mass and considering its position relative to the center of the disk.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and calculations related to rotational dynamics, including the implications of moving the cockroach within the system. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct application of theorems and principles without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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A cockroach of mass m lies on the rim of a uniform disk of mass 4.29m that can rotate freely about its center like a merry-go-round. Initially the cockroach and disk rotate together with an angular velocity of 0.271 rad/s. Then the cockroach walks halfway to the center of the disk. (a) What then is the angular velocity of the cockroach-disk system? (b) What is the ratio K/K0 of the new kinetic energy of the system to its initial kinetic energy?




I am not even sure how to begin this problem. I thought you could set up a ratio using v= r times omega. But that didn't work out, so I'm not sure where to even begin, even though the book says it relates to angular momentum.
 
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Consider conservation of angular momentum.
 
I figured it had something to do with that, but how am I supposed to figure out the rotational inertia, and for it, do i find the rotational inertic from the cockraoch using the parallel axis theorem and then add it to the rotational inertia of the disk, and then do it once again for the new placement of the cockraoch?
 
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I'm still having trouble figuring this one out
 
cd80187 said:
I figured it had something to do with that, but how am I supposed to figure out the rotational inertia, and for it, do i find the rotational inertic from the cockraoch using the parallel axis theorem and then add it to the rotational inertia of the disk, and then do it once again for the new placement of the cockraoch?
That will work. You can treat the cockroach as a point mass.
 
So should I treat it as a particle with it as its own axis, or should I still do the parallel axis theorem and count r as the distance between the cockraoch and the center?
 
Either way will give you the same answer. Try it and see.
 

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