What is the average force exerted on a bouncing steel ball?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 2.18 kg steel ball striking a wall at an angle and speed, then bouncing off. Participants are tasked with determining the average force exerted on the ball during its contact with the wall, given the time of contact.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating impulse and momentum, with some attempting to resolve the velocity components to understand the changes in momentum. Questions arise regarding the change in momentum and how it relates to the average force.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some have provided insights into the components of momentum that change, while others seek clarification on the implications of negative velocity and its relation to the problem.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and are questioning the assumptions regarding momentum changes in different directions. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between impulse and momentum in the context of the collision.

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Homework Statement



A 2.18 kg steel ball strikes a massive wall at 12.6 m/s at an angle of a = 55.1o with the plane of the wall. It bounces off with the same speed and angle (as seen in the figure below). If the ball is in contact with the wall for 0.152 s, what is the average force exerted on the ball by the wall?

Homework Equations



mv/change in t = average force
v=sq. root 2gh

The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried finding the impulse and then dividing it by the .152 sec. but I keep getting the wrong answer. Could someone please walk me through the equations and steps? Thanks!
 
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Knfoster said:

Homework Statement



A 2.18 kg steel ball strikes a massive wall at 12.6 m/s at an angle of a = 55.1o with the plane of the wall. It bounces off with the same speed and angle (as seen in the figure below). If the ball is in contact with the wall for 0.152 s, what is the average force exerted on the ball by the wall?

Homework Equations



mv/change in t = average force
v=sq. root 2gh

The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried finding the impulse and then dividing it by the .152 sec. but I keep getting the wrong answer. Could someone please walk me through the equations and steps? Thanks!

What is the Δ in momentum?
 
momentum= mass(velocity)...2.18*12.6=27.5
 
Knfoster said:
momentum= mass(velocity)...2.18*12.6=27.5

But what was the Δ in momentum.

Think x,y components.
 
Resolve the initial and final velocity vectors to find out which component undergoes a change.
 
v1 prime would be -v1
v2 prime would be 0

how does that fit into the problem?
 
Knfoster said:
v1 prime would be -v1
v2 prime would be 0

how does that fit into the problem?

Impulse requires knowing the Δ in momentum.

Now not all the momentum changes here. For instance the momentum || to the wall is unchanged after contacting the wall.

But the ⊥ component has a change. Figure that change as I think you will be needing it.
 
I don't understand... Is that not just the negative of the velocity?
 
Knfoster said:
I don't understand... Is that not just the negative of the velocity?

Negative of the original velocity means that it returned in the direction it came.

It did not.
 

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