What is the average value of electric field?

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The discussion focuses on the average value of electric fields, specifically using the average value theorem in the context of vector fields. The equation \oint_{\Delta S}\vec{E}\cdot \vec{dS}=const \overline{\rho}\Delta V illustrates how the average density \overline{\rho} relates to the integral of the scalar field \rho over a volume \Delta V. The participants clarify that the integral of a constant over a region yields the constant multiplied by the region's measure, establishing a foundational understanding of averages in mathematical physics. The discussion also touches on the application of Gauss's theorem, leading to the conclusion that div\vec{E}=const\rho.

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[tex]\oint_{\Delta S}\vec{E}\cdot \vec{dS}=const \int_{\Delta_V}\rho dV[/tex]

[tex]\Delta S[/tex] surface which surround domain [tex]\Delta V[/tex].

[tex]\vec{E}(\vec{r},t)[/tex] - vector field

[tex]\rho(\vec{r},t)[/tex] - scalar field

Now in the book which I read they say we use average value theorem

and get

[tex]\oint_{\Delta S}\vec{E}\cdot \vec{dS}=const \overline{\rho}\Delta V[/tex]

Can you tell me something more about

[tex]\int_{\Delta_V}\rho dV=\overline{\rho}\Delta V[/tex]
 
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Well, there really isn't much to be said. The integral of a constant over a region is just that constant times the measure (length, area, or volume) of the region. Essentially you defining the average of a function to be that constant which, when integrated over the region, gives the same value as the integral integrated over the region.

It is just an extension of the average of a finite set of numbers: if the set of numbers is [itex]\{x_1, x_2, \cdot\cdot\cdot, x_n\}[/itex] then adding them gives [itex]x_1+ x_2+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ x_n[/itex] and their average, [itex]\overline{x}[/itex] is the number such that [itex]\overline{x}+ \overline{x}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ \overline{x}= n\overline{x}= x_1+ x_2+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ x_n[[/tex]. That is,<br /> [itex]\overline{x}= \frac{x_1+ x_2+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ x_n}{n}[/itex].[/itex]
 
Thanks! Idea is clear to me. But I have a trouble to determine when can I do that!

For example when can I say

[tex]\int^a_0f(x)dx=\overline{f}a[/tex]
?

From

[tex] \oint_{\Delta S}\vec{E}\cdot \vec{dS}=const \overline{\rho}\Delta V[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{\Delta V} \oint_{\Delta S}\vec{E}\cdot \vec{dS}=const \overline{\rho}[/tex]

[tex]lim_{\Delta V \rightarrow 0}\frac{1}{\Delta V} \oint_{\Delta S}\vec{E}\cdot \vec{dS}<br /> =lim_{\Delta V \rightarrow 0}const \overline{\rho}[/tex]

[tex](div\vec{E})_M=(const \overline{\rho})_M[/tex]

where [tex]M[/tex] is some point in region which volume (measure) is [tex]\Delta V[/tex].

And if I use Gauss theorem I will get

[tex]div\vec{E}=const\rho[/tex]
 

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