What is the Best Graphing Calculator for Engineers?

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The discussion centers around the selection of the best graphing calculator for engineers, exploring the needs of engineering students and professionals. Participants debate the relevance and utility of graphing calculators in comparison to other technologies, such as laptops and smartphones, while considering specific models and their features.

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  • One participant suggests that the calculator should graph, allow for notes, and scroll through old calculations.
  • Another participant argues that graphing calculators are outdated and proposes using a laptop with mathematics software instead, questioning the need for a graphing calculator for engineering students.
  • A participant mentions the TI-84 as a common choice for graphing needs, but notes its limitations in providing only decimal answers, suggesting the TI-89 for more advanced functionality.
  • Some participants claim that smartphones have rendered graphing calculators obsolete, while others counter that there are significant differences in their use in educational settings.
  • One participant provides a ranked list of high-end calculators suitable for engineering students, including the HP 50G, TI-89, HP Prime, TI-Nspire, and Casio ClassPAD, discussing their respective strengths and weaknesses.
  • Concerns are raised about the limitations of certain calculators, such as the HP Prime and TI-Nspire, in terms of usability and features compared to others.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity and effectiveness of graphing calculators versus other devices, with no consensus reached on the best option. There are multiple competing perspectives regarding the suitability of specific models for engineering applications.

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Some participants highlight the importance of calculator features for high-end math, while others emphasize the context of use in educational settings, indicating that certain calculators may not be allowed during exams.

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Pick Best Calculator for Engineers.

Of course this Calculator needs to graph.
Buts also needs room for notes , and be able to scroll through old calculation.
Suggestions?
 
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Why does it need to graph? IMO graphing calculators are a joke. Ancient technology with no useful purpose at all. I would suggest a laptop with mathematics software for things like graphing and notes. Otherwise, a cheap scientific calculator to do your arithmetic.

You say you want one for engineers, but I suspect you want one for engineering students... ?
 
By far the most common calculator I've see is the TI-84 and that is sufficent for most graphing needs as a laptop or phone is not practical or allowed for all uses. However, TI-84 only provides decimal answers, for exact answers a TI-89 would be better. The TI-89 has more features than the TI-84 and takes a while to learn but the added functionality is worth it. TI and Casio graphing calculators only have the first quadrant trig functions, if you need all the trig functions, HP calculators have the full list.
 
Smart phones have just about made graphing calculators obsolete.
 
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Smart phones have just about made graphing calculators obsolete.

I don't completely agree. In schools there is a big difference between allowing students to use a calculator and allowing them to use a phone.
 
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As I read your requirements, you want a recommendation for a graphing calculator for an engineer (or engineering student). An ME, EE or Physics student could actually require a calculator that can support all types of high end math. A Ti 83/84 falls far short of this requirement (although many have used this calculator to graduate as it functions as a decent scientific with a great set of statistical functions, something that is very handy for labs and business majors). And if your professors/school allows a high end graphing calculators with CAS, the following five calculators leave everything else in the dust. I will list them in order of power/features. This order could change as the Ti-Nspire (probably very little left to develop as it has been on the market for nearly a decade) and Hp Prime built in functions are still being developed.
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1st, Hp 50G, 2nd, Ti-89, 3rd, Hp Prime, 4th, Ti-Nspire and 5th, Casio ClassPAD.
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Does this mean you should automatically buy the Hp 50G (and won't be available for much longer)? But it is an RPN/algebraic selectable calculator and if you use it in algebraic mode, the Ti-89 is actually the superior calculator (Hp 50G has bugs in Algebraic or poorly implemented units conversions and other issues when Hp crammed in algebraic support into this line). Both of these calculators are NOT being marketed as both Ti and Hp now push their Nspire and Prime calculators as their high end solutions.
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The Ti-89 is superior to the Hp Prime for many high end math features too. The Hp Prime actually evolved from the Hp 39/40G line of calculators and has several design limitations (single letter variables) that will always make it less useful compared to the Hp 50G or Ti-89.
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The Ti-Nspire is a locked down programming system (to keep cheat sheets from being loaded on and make it more test compliant) as such is also crippled even further than the Hp Prime.
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The ClassPad evolved from the Casio FX 1 and FX 2 CAS line and as such have similar limitations to the Hp Prime. However, the last three have color screens which could clarify differences in graphs when displaying different functions on the same screen.
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My own opinion is that any of these is a bargain to have in your backpack to help with high end math. And where the professors allow these calculators in their class, you might be foolish to use anything less. However, if you're not allowed to use these during exams or quizzes, these then become teaching aids and you might be better off using Math software which can be used in reports and getting an NCEES compliant calculator for your personal use.
 
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