What is the best method for solving rational function integrals?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for solving integrals of rational functions, specifically focusing on the integral of the form \(\int \frac{x+1}{(x-4)^{2}}dx\). Participants explore various approaches, including partial fraction decomposition and substitutions, while seeking clarification on the correct application of these methods.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about transforming the integral into two expressions with the same denominator and encounters issues when substituting values of \(x\).
  • Another participant suggests the appropriate partial fraction expansion as \(\frac{x+1}{(x-4)^{2}} = \frac{A}{x-4} + \frac{B}{(x-4)^{2}}\).
  • A different approach is proposed, where the numerator is rewritten as \((x-4)+5\), leading to a simpler integration process.
  • Several participants discuss the misunderstanding of partial fractions, emphasizing that the common denominator should be \((x-4)^{2}\) rather than \((x-4)^{3}\).
  • One participant acknowledges the analogy to numerical fractions, indicating a clearer understanding of the concept after discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of confusion and clarification regarding the method of partial fractions. While some approaches are proposed, there is no consensus on a single best method for solving the integral, and multiple viewpoints remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the correct application of partial fractions and the implications of common denominators. The discussion includes various assumptions and approaches that have not been fully resolved.

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Hello,

I am trying to solve the next integral, using this method of rational functions.

My problem is, that I turn the function into two expressions with the same denominator...when I try to use values of x, I will always make zero of both sides, if you know what I mean

\[\int \frac{x+1}{(x-4)^{2}}dx=\int (\frac{A}{x-4}+\frac{B}{x-4})dx\]

I'll be happy to see an example how to solve such integrals.

Thank you !
 
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Yankel said:
Hello,

I am trying to solve the next integral, using this method of rational functions.

My problem is, that I turn the function into two expressions with the same denominator...when I try to use values of x, I will always make zero of both sides, if you know what I mean

\[\int \frac{x+1}{(x-4)^{2}}dx=\int (\frac{A}{x-4}+\frac{B}{x-4})dx\]

I'll be happy to see an example how to solve such integrals.

Thank you !

The appropriate partial fraction expansion in this case is...

$\displaystyle \frac{x+1}{(x-4)^{2}} = \frac{A}{x-4} + \frac{B}{(x-4)^{2}}\ (1)$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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Yankel said:
Hello,

I am trying to solve the next integral, using this method of rational functions.

My problem is, that I turn the function into two expressions with the same denominator...when I try to use values of x, I will always make zero of both sides, if you know what I mean

\[\int \frac{x+1}{(x-4)^{2}}dx=\int (\frac{A}{x-4}+\frac{B}{x-4})dx\]

I'll be happy to see an example how to solve such integrals.

Thank you !

How about:
$$\frac{x+1}{(x-4)^{2}} = \frac{(x-4)+5}{(x-4)^{2}}
= \frac{1}{x-4}+\frac{5}{(x-4)^{2}}$$

Logical follow-up is a substitution of $u=x-4$ (also good to start with).
 
chisigma,

why ? I don't get it, if you multiply both fractions, you get (x-4)^3
 
Yankel said:
why ? I don't get it, if you multiply both fractions, you get (x-4)^3

Try it like this:
$$\frac{A}{x-4} + \frac{B}{(x-4)^{2}}
= \frac{A(x-4)}{(x-4)^{2}} + \frac{B}{(x-4)^{2}}
= \frac{A(x-4) + B}{(x-4)^{2}}$$
 
I hope you guys don't mind me invading the thread for a second. :rolleyes:

Yankel said:
chisigma,

why ? I don't get it, if you multiply both fractions, you get (x-4)^3

I think you are misunderstanding partial fractions. :) If you had

$$\frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{9}$$

the result would be

$$\frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{9} = \frac{3}{9} + \frac{1}{9} = \frac{4}{9}.$$

The same happens with polynomials. By writing

$$\frac{A}{x-4} + \frac{B}{(x-4)^2}$$

what you mean is

$$\frac{A}{x-4} + \frac{B}{(x-4)^2} = \frac{A(x-4)}{(x-4)^2} + \frac{B}{(x-4)^2} = \frac{A(x-4) + B}{(x-4)^2}.$$

Guess all I am trying to say is that the common denominator is $(x-4)^2$ and not $(x-4)^3$. In other words, you don't multiply them by each other, because they have a factor in common (one $(x-4)$). ;)

Cheers!
 
Right, now that I have seen the analogy to number I get it...looks obvious now :o
 
Yankel said:
Hello,

I am trying to solve the next integral, using this method of rational functions.

My problem is, that I turn the function into two expressions with the same denominator...when I try to use values of x, I will always make zero of both sides, if you know what I mean

\[\int \frac{x+1}{(x-4)^{2}}dx=\int (\frac{A}{x-4}+\frac{B}{x-4})dx\]

I'll be happy to see an example how to solve such integrals.

Thank you !
This is so, so, so much easier if you just represent the x in the numerator as a function of the denominator - namely, $$x=(x-4) +4\,$$ . Observe:

$$\int \frac{x+1}{(x-4)^{2}}dx=\int\frac{[(x-4)+4]+1}{(x-4)^2}\,dx=$$

$$\int \frac{(x-4)+5}{(x-4)^2}\,dx=\int\frac{dx}{(x-4)}+5\int\frac{dx}{(x-4)^2}\,dx$$Hope that helps... :D
 

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