Asymptotes of Rational Functions....

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The discussion revolves around the asymptotic behavior of rational functions, particularly focusing on slant and vertical asymptotes, as well as the possibility of curved asymptotes. Participants explore the conditions under which these asymptotes exist and their characteristics, including the behavior of functions as they approach these asymptotic lines.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that rational functions with a numerator degree greater than the denominator degree by one unit will have one slant asymptote and no horizontal asymptotes, while possibly having several vertical asymptotes.
  • Another participant questions whether a rational function can have more than one slant asymptote when the numerator degree exceeds the denominator degree by two or more units.
  • There is a belief expressed that curves can cross their asymptotes while still remaining around the asymptotic line, with an example provided of a slant asymptote being crossed.
  • A participant suggests dividing by the highest power of x in the denominator to clarify the behavior of the function for large x, while noting that polynomials do not oscillate.
  • Discussion includes the idea of curved asymptotes, with one participant providing an example of a rational function that appears to have a curved asymptote.
  • Another participant confirms that for large |x|, a specific function approximates a quadratic function, while also providing an example of a function that intersects its asymptote.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and nature of slant and curved asymptotes, with no consensus reached on whether multiple slant asymptotes can exist or the behavior of functions crossing their asymptotes.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the behavior of rational functions and the definitions of asymptotes may be implicit in the discussion, and the exploration of curved asymptotes introduces additional complexity that remains unresolved.

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asymptotes of rational functions when numerator degree> denominator degree
Hello,
I know that functions can have or not asymptotes. Polynomials have none.

In the case of a rational functions, if the numerator degree > denominator degree by one unit, the rational function will have a) one slant asymptote and b) NO horizontal asymptotes, c) possibly several vertical asymptotes.
  • How many slant asymptotes can a rational function have when numerator degree > denominator degree by one unit? Always just a single one?
  • What happens if numerator degree >denominator degree by 2 or even more units? Does the rational function still have a single slant asymptote, none or more than one? For example, ##\frac {4x^5+2}{3x+2}##
Finally, I believe that a curve can even cross its asymptotes, either nearby or even far away (far up, far down, far left or far right), as long as the curve "remains around" the asymptotic line. For example, imagine a slant asymptote and the curve oscillating, and crossing it, but the curve navigates along the asymptote itself...

Thanks!
 
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Divide by the highest power of x of the denominator and it should be clearer what happens for large x (where 1/x becomes negligible).
fog37 said:
Finally, I believe that a curve can even cross its asymptotes, either nearby or even far away (far up, far down, far left or far right), as long as the curve "remains around" the asymptotic line. For example, imagine a slant asymptote and the curve oscillating, and crossing it, but the curve navigates along the asymptote itself...
For general functions yes, but a polynomial won't oscillate.
 
Thank you. I did. When we do polynomial division, we get $$Q(x)+R(x)$$

the quotient ##Q(x)## is not a straight line. We neglect the remainder #R(x)## since it becomes extremely small. So far we have assumed that asymptotes are straight lines.

But what about curved asymptotes? I think they exist with no problem. I found this interesting example online: $$\frac {x-x^2+x^4}{x^2-1}$$ which appears to have a curved asymptote...

Thanks!
 
Sure, you get ##f(x) \approx x^2## for large |x|.

While you can't get oscillations, here is a function that intersects its asymptote: (-0.1*x^3+1x^2-3.5x+4)/x^2
 

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