What is the charge of an electron and the nature of stopping potential?

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The discussion revolves around the charge of an electron and the nature of stopping potential in the context of the photoelectric effect. Participants explore the definitions and implications of these concepts, referencing graphs and equations related to stopping potential and threshold frequency.

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  • Some participants question whether 'e' represents the charge of an electron as a negative value or simply as an elementary charge, which is often considered positive.
  • There is uncertainty regarding whether stopping potential (Vs) is defined as a positive or negative value, with references to different graphs suggesting conflicting interpretations.
  • One participant suggests that the stopping potential can be chosen in experiments, indicating that the voltage at which current ceases is always considered "stopping."
  • Another participant asserts that the threshold frequency must be the x-intercept on the graph, claiming it is the minimum frequency required to emit electrons from the material.
  • One participant describes an observation where the galvanometer stops deflecting despite continued light exposure, indicating a constant stopping potential.
  • Another participant notes that for stopping potential, the photographic plate should be connected to the positive terminal to prevent emitted electrons from moving towards the collector, resulting in zero current and stopping potential.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of stopping potential and the interpretation of graphs related to threshold frequency. No consensus is reached regarding the charge of an electron or the definitive nature of stopping potential.

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There are unresolved questions about the definitions of charge and stopping potential, as well as the implications of experimental setups on these concepts. The discussion includes references to specific graphs that may not be universally interpreted.

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For this post, I'll be mainly referring to this photoelectric equation:
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Fig 1: Photoelectric equation

1) Is 'e' the charge of an electron, ie. a negative value? Or just an elementary charge, ie. a positive value?

2) Is stopping potential (Vs) a positive or negative value? Because in my lecture notes, there's two different graphs, one saying that Vs is positive, and one saying that it's negative:

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Fig 2: Current against Potential difference graph

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Fig 3: Stopping potential vs Frequency graph

2) Googling 'stopping potential vs frequency graph' yields me almost similar results of this graph:

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Fig 4: Stopping potential vs Frequency graph

Must threshold frequency necessarily be the x intercept? Can it be any higher value, like the one shown in Fig 3?

Thanks!
 
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blooperkin said:
1) Is 'e' the charge of an electron, ie. a negative value? Or just an elementary charge, ie. a positive value?
Hmm... it looks like an elementary charge, but that does not fit to the sketch later. Let's say it is the charge of an electron.

blooperkin said:
2) Is stopping potential (Vs) a positive or negative value?
You can choose that in the experiment. The voltage where the current goes to zero is always "stopping" (the object where the light hits has a higher electric potential).

blooperkin said:
Must threshold frequency necessarily be the x intercept?
Yes. That is the minimal frequency where you get electrons out of the material.
 
As the terminals attached to the battery are changed for stopping the emission of electrons, after few minutes galvonometer stops deflecting and reaches to zero . Even though light rays are incident on photographic plate electron emission stops and thus stopping potential remains constant .
 
For stopping potential, photographic plate should be attached with positive terminal so that electrons emitted does not move towards collector . Electric current and stopping potential becomes zero
 

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