What is the concentration of Br1- ions in a solution of 0.0330% AlBr3?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the concentration of Br- ions in a solution of 0.0330% AlBr3. Participants explore the conversion of percentage concentration to ppm and the assumptions regarding solution density.

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  • One participant calculates the moles of Br- ions based on the weight of AlBr3 and suggests a concentration in ppm.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to assume a density of approximately 1.00 g/mL for the solution to convert the percentage concentration correctly.
  • There is a correction regarding the interpretation of the percentage concentration, with a focus on the correct conversion from grams per 100 grams of solution to grams per 100 mL.
  • Participants discuss the need to express the number of moles of Br- in terms of moles per liter and suggest multiplying the percentage by ten to facilitate this conversion.

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Participants express differing views on the correct interpretation of the percentage concentration and the necessary conversions to arrive at the concentration of Br- ions. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing approaches presented.

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Participants highlight assumptions regarding solution density and the conversion process from percentage to moles per liter, indicating potential limitations in the calculations presented.

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Homework Statement



A solution is found to be 0.0330% by weight AlBr3. What is the concentration of the Br1- ion expressed in ppm?

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Assume .0330 % => .0330 g AlBr3

.0330 g AlBr3*(1 mol AlBr3/266.697 g AlBr3)*(3 mol Br^-1 /1 mol AlBr3) =.0003712 mol Br^-1

10^6 g sol'n *(1 mL/1.0 g sol'n)*(1 L/1000^3) = 1000 L

(.0003712 mol Br^-1) /(1000 L) = 3.712*10^-6
 
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The percent of AlBr3 is grams per 100 grams of solution. You need to make an assumption that this low concentration (0.0330%) will yield a solution with a density of approximately 1.00 g/mL. (so 0.00330 g AlBr3/100g solution = 0.0330 g AlBr3/100 mL)

Since the concentration is given with a specific number of significant digits, use the same number of significant digits in your answer.
 
chemisttree said:
Start over.

The percent of AlBr3 is grams per 100 grams of solution. You need to make an assumption that this low concentration (0.0330%) will yield a solution with a density of approximately 1.00 g/mL. (so 0.00330 g AlBr3/100g solution = 0.0330 g AlBr3/100 mL)

Since the concentration is given with a specific number of significant digits, use the same number of significant digits in your answer.

don't you mean 0.00330 g AlBr3/100g solution = 0.00330 g/100 mL
AlBr3 not 0.00330 g AlBr3/100g solution = 0.0330/100 mL g AlBr3

Anywh, would you now multily (.00330 g AlBr3/100 g AlBr3)*(1 mol AlBr3 /266.68 g AlBr3)*(3 mol Br1-/1 mol AlBr3) to get the number of moles of Br1- ions? If I followed the correct procedure, would divide my number of bromine moles by 10^6 g to calculate the concentration?
 
Benzoate said:
don't you mean 0.00330 g AlBr3/100g solution = 0.00330 g/100 mL AlBr3 not 0.00330 g AlBr3/100g solution = 0.0330/100 mL g AlBr3

No. I mean 0.0330 g aluminum bromide per one hundred milliters of solution. In shorthand it looks like this: 0.0330 g AlBr3/100 mL solution.

Benzoate said:
Anywh, would you now multily (.00330 g AlBr3/100 g AlBr3)*(1 mol AlBr3 /266.68 g AlBr3)*(3 mol Br1-/1 mol AlBr3) to get the number of moles of Br1- ions? If I followed the correct procedure, would divide my number of bromine moles by 10^6 g to calculate the concentration?

Nope. If there are 0.0330 g AlBr3 per 100 mL of solution, how many grams of AlBr3 will there be in a liter? You need to express the number of moles of Br- in terms of moles per liter and then multiply by 10^6. You need to do a little work to convert percent to moles per liter... but you must do it. Try multiplying the percentage by ten and see where that leads. (since 10 X 100 mL is 1000 mL or one liter)
 

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