What is the Conjugacy Criterion for Galois Subgroups?

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The discussion revolves around the conjugacy criterion for Galois subgroups in the context of a Galois extension of fields. The original poster is tasked with proving that two intermediate fields are conjugate if and only if their corresponding Galois groups are conjugate subgroups of the Galois group of the extension.

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  • The original poster attempts to prove the statement by analyzing the relationships between the Galois groups and the fields. They express uncertainty about transitioning from the conjugacy of the groups to the conjugacy of the fields. Other participants suggest examining the implications of the Galois correspondence and the properties of the groups involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the implications of their findings and exploring the relationships between the fields and their Galois groups. Some have provided hints and guidance, particularly regarding the use of the fundamental theorem of Galois theory, but there is no explicit consensus on the proof's completion.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions and definitions related to the Galois groups and their actions on the fields. Some participants note the need for clarity on the elements of the fields versus the sets themselves, indicating a potential area of confusion in the proof.

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Homework Statement


Let K be a Galois extension of F. Two intermediate fields E and L of field F are said to be conjugate if there exists
\sigma\in\text Gal_F K such that \sigma (E) = L.
Prove that E and L are conjugates of F if and only if \text Gal_E K and \text Gal_L K are conjugate subgroups of \text Gal_F K.

The Attempt at a Solution


From left to right, I have it already. I can't figure out how to get anywhere going from the right to left part of the proof.
I want to show that \sigma (E)=L for some \sigma\in Gal_F K.
Let \alpha\in Gal_L K , \beta\in Gal_E K.
Since Gal_L K, Gal_E Kare conjugates, then Gal_E K=\{\sigma\alpha\sigma^{-1} | \alpha\in Gal_L K\} or Gal_L K=\{\sigma^{-1}\beta\sigma | \beta\in Gal_E K\}.

\alpha=\sigma\beta\sigma^{-1}
\beta=\sigma^{-1}\alpha\sigma

I know that \beta fixes E and that \alpha fixes L.

\alpha (L)=\sigma\beta\sigma^{-1} (L)
\beta (E)=\sigma^{-1}\alpha\sigma (E)

L=\sigma\beta\sigma^{-1} (L)
E=\sigma^{-1}\alpha\sigma (E)

\sigma^{-1} (L)=\beta (\sigma^{-1} (L))
\sigma (E)=\alpha (\sigma (E))

\beta fixes \sigma^{-1} (L) and \alpha fixes \sigma (E)

\beta\in Gal_{\sigma^{-1} (L)} K and \alpha\in Gal_{\sigma (E)} K

From earlier: \beta\in Gal_E K and \alpha\in Gal_L K

So the only conclusion that I have is that the Gal_{\sigma (E)} K \cap Gal_L K and Gal_{\sigma^{-1} (L)} K \cap Gal_E K are nontrivial.

I feel like I should be using the Galois extension, i.e. Galois correspondence, to my advantage here, but I just don't see how it is applicable. It gives me that there exists a isomorphism from the intermediate fields to their respective Galois subgroup, i.e. \tau (E)=Gal_E K. And since isomorphisms are order preserving, I get \left| {Gal_E K} \right|=\left| {E} \right| and \left| {Gal_L K} \right|=\left| {L} \right|.

Any direction on the problem is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 
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masterslave said:
I know that \beta fixes E and that \alpha fixes L.

\alpha (L)=\sigma\beta\sigma^{-1} (L)
\beta (E)=\sigma^{-1}\alpha\sigma (E)

L=\sigma\beta\sigma^{-1} (L)
E=\sigma^{-1}\alpha\sigma (E)

\sigma^{-1} (L)=\beta (\sigma^{-1} (L))
\sigma (E)=\alpha (\sigma (E))

\beta fixes \sigma^{-1} (L) and \alpha fixes \sigma (E)

Shouldn't that argument be carried out on elements of E (and elements of L) rather than on the set E itself (resp. L)? Still get the same conclusion though.

So the only conclusion that I have is that the Gal_{\sigma (E)} K \cap Gal_L K and Gal_{\sigma^{-1} (L)} K \cap Gal_E K are nontrivial.

No, better than that, didn't you show

Gal_L K\subset Gal_{\sigma (E)} K and Gal_E K\subset Gal_{\sigma^{-1} (L)} K ?


Would it help now to use G_1 \subset G_2 implies K_{G_1} \supset K_{G_2} where K_G denotes the subfield of K fixed by G?
 
Let G = \textrm{Gal}_L K and H = \textrm{Gal}_E K. You have G = \sigma H \sigma^{-1}. Why is it true that if a \in E and \tau \in G, then \tau \circ \sigma (a) = \sigma(a)? Why does this tell you that \sigma(E) \subseteq L (hint: fundamental theorem of Galois theory)? (The reverse inclusion is basically the same.)
 
VKint said:
Let G = \textrm{Gal}_L K and H = \textrm{Gal}_E K. You have G = \sigma H \sigma^{-1}. Why is it true that if a \in E and \tau \in G, then \tau \circ \sigma (a) = \sigma(a)? Why does this tell you that \sigma(E) \subseteq L (hint: fundamental theorem of Galois theory)? (The reverse inclusion is basically the same.)

Thank you both for your kind help. I see how <br /> \sigma(E) \subseteq L <br /> , but i don't see how to get <br /> L \subseteq \sigma(E)<br />

Thanks again!
 
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masterslave said:
Thank you both for your kind help. I see how <br /> \sigma(E) \subseteq L <br /> , but i don't see how to get <br /> L \subseteq \sigma(E)<br />

Thanks again!

You can get \sigma^{-1}(L) \subseteq E so then you have it.
 
Wow, yeah, it's so obvious now. Thank you all for your time. I get it now.
 

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