What is the Contribution of Heavy Quarks to Proton Structure?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the contribution of heavy quarks, specifically charm (c), bottom (b), and top (t) quarks, to the structure of protons. Participants explore the implications of Parton Distribution Functions (PDFs) and the role of off-shell quarks in this context, touching on theoretical and experimental aspects.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the exclusion of heavy quarks from PDFs, noting the mass of the charm quark and its potential contribution to proton structure.
  • Another participant suggests that perturbative QCD may allow for some intrinsic charm component in protons, referencing a paper that discusses this idea.
  • Several participants mention that off-shell quarks do not need to adhere to their on-shell masses, raising the possibility that b and t quarks could also contribute under certain conditions.
  • It is noted that while virtual b and t quarks theoretically contribute, their effects are considered negligible in practical calculations.
  • Participants discuss the existence of five flavor PDFs and the negligible contributions of top quarks, emphasizing that their effects are overshadowed by uncertainties from lighter quarks.
  • One participant highlights that quark content arises from the evolution of partons, suggesting that heavy quarks can contribute when evolving to high virtuality.
  • There is mention of the b quark contribution being present in four-flavor PDFs due to gluon splitting, but its treatment is complex and involves trade-offs in accuracy and calculation ease.
  • Another participant clarifies that the b contribution is included in matrix elements but is neglected in PDFs to improve prediction accuracy for final states.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the contributions of heavy quarks, with no clear consensus on the extent of their impact or the methodologies for including them in PDFs. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the significance of these contributions and the implications for proton structure.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the complexity of defining quark masses, the challenges in isolating quarks for measurement, and the dependence on the chosen PDF framework. The discussion also highlights the unresolved nature of contributions from heavy quarks in high-energy interactions.

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I am looking at the structure of protons, and in my script, when they define the Parton Distribution Functions of all parton species they say that the integral over PDFs of all parton species yields a total momentum fraction of:

[itex]\sum_i \int_{0}^{1} f_{i}(x) x dx =1[/itex]
where [itex]i[/itex] denots the species:
[itex]g,u,d,s,c,\bar{u},\bar{d},\bar{s},\bar{c}[/itex]
Then it says that b or t quarks are not included due to their high mass...
However isn't the [itex]c[/itex] quark pretty massive (1.29GeV >1 GeV) for the proton (~1 GeV)?
 
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They are off-shell quarks, so they don't have to have their on-shell masses. Also those masses are defined in a tricky way since you cannot actually isolate a quark to measure its mass.
 
kurros said:
They are off-shell quarks, so they don't have to have their on-shell masses. Also those masses are defined in a tricky way since you cannot actually isolate a quark to measure its mass.

that works fine for me... but if I accept the existence of off-shell quarks, wouldn't the same reasoning work for b or t quarks?
 
ChrisVer said:
that works fine for me... but if I accept the existence of off-shell quarks, wouldn't the same reasoning work for b or t quarks?

Yep, pretty sure. Theoretically virtual b and t quarks contribute, but I think they are just negligible so people ignore them.
 
There are 5 flavor PDFs. There are not 6 flavor ones because the top contributions are unmeasurably small.
 
The b contribution is there (you can measure it via single-top production in proton/proton collisions), but its contribution to the total momentum is quite small. The charm contribution is a bit larger. If you include those two (or just 1) depends on the precision you want. Including the top is pointless because its contribution is tiny compared to the uncertainties from the light quarks.
 
Note that the Parton distributions functions are required to describe the evolution of patrons before an interaction.

The point is that quark content arises due to the evolution of patrons. So, by evolving the patrons to high virtuality (q^2), the c, b, or t quarks can effectively contribute to an interaction.

At a 100tev hadron collider, the t quark distribution will have to be studied theoretically and experimentally.
 
The b-contribution is also there in four-flavor PDF's. There it comes from the gluon splitting to bbar.

There is no physical distinction between starting with u, d and g PDFs and letting them evolve and starting with 4 or 5 flavor PDFs. It's a question of ease of calculation and ease of comparison with data.
 
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The b contribution in the 4 flavour scheme is present in the gluon splitting *only in the matrix element*.

It is neglected from the PDF to allow the b quarks to be treated as massive quarks in the matrix element. This improves the accuracy of the prediction for the b quark in the final state... At a consequence of losing the resummation of b quark contributions in the PDF which are ignored.

The treatment is only the same if you can calculate the full interaction (all orders in the matrix element), which is not and will not be possible.
 

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