What is the Correct Approach for Solving Faraday's Law Problem?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Mark Zhu
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Faraday's law Law
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on solving a Faraday's Law problem involving the calculation of magnetic flux through a loop. The user initially calculated the charge Q(t) as Q(t) = CB0Aωcos(ωt)(1-e^-t/(RC)), focusing only on the interval ωt = 0 to ωt = π/2. However, the book presents a more complex solution with three terms, indicating that the user may have only derived part of the answer. Participants emphasize the necessity of solving the homogeneous differential equation first to obtain the complementary solution before addressing the full differential equation.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Faraday's Law and magnetic flux
  • Knowledge of differential equations and their solutions
  • Familiarity with the concepts of complementary and particular solutions
  • Experience with the mathematical techniques of separation of variables
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the method for solving homogeneous differential equations
  • Learn about complementary and particular solutions in differential equations
  • Explore the application of Faraday's Law in various electromagnetic scenarios
  • Investigate the use of ansatz in solving differential equations
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in physics, particularly those studying electromagnetism, electrical engineers, and anyone involved in solving differential equations related to electromagnetic fields.

Mark Zhu
Messages
32
Reaction score
3
Homework Statement
Consider the circuit below, which has a capacitor and a resistor and negligible self-inductance. The area enclosed by the circuit is A.
Suppose at t = 0 there is no charge on the capacitor and a magnetic field is switched on which points into the paper. The magnetic field varies with time according to
|B→| = B[SUB]0[/SUB] sin(ωt)
where B[SUB]0[/SUB] and ω are constants. Find the charge on the top plate as a function of time.
Relevant Equations
Q = CV
V = IR
This seems like just another Faraday's Law problem, but I'm getting the wrong answer according to the book. I think I'm only calculating the answer for the interval ωt = 0 and ωt = pi/2, when the |B→| is increasing. Basically you just calculate the magnetic flux through the area of the loop, which is -B0Asin(ωt). It's negative because I have chosen to go CCW around the loop, making dA→ point out of the page while the magnetic field points inwards. Taking the derivative of this WRT time is just -B0Aωcos(ωt). I set this equal to the negative closed path integral of E→ ⋅ dr→, which is -Q/C-iR since I'm going ccw around the path in the same direction as the current. After doing some math and noting Q(0) = 0, I get that Q(t) = CB0Aωcos(ωt)(1-e^-t/(RC)).
However, the book has a super complex and weird answer and with 3 terms: 1 with cos, 1 with sin, and 1 with e exponential.
Do I only have half the answer since I only considered the interval between ωt = 0 and ωt = pi/2, where |B→| is increasing? Thanks a lot.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_20190803_224035.jpg
    IMG_20190803_224035.jpg
    35 KB · Views: 310
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Mark Zhu said:
After doing some math and noting Q(0) = 0, I get that Q(t) = CB0Aωcos(ωt)(1-e^-t/(RC)).
How did you solve the differential equation for Q(t)?
 
Mark Zhu said:
. After doing some math and noting Q(0) = 0, I get that Q(t) = CB0Aωcos(ωt)(1-e^-t/(RC)).
However, the book has a super complex and weird answer and with 3 terms: 1 with cos, 1 with sin, and 1 with e exponential.
Check if your function is really solution of the problem.
 
doggydan42 said:
How did you solve the differential equation for Q(t)?
 

Attachments

On the line where you introduced the natural logarithm, there is a cosine term of t, so you cannot simply say that it is an integral like ##\frac{dQ}{Q+C}##, for some constant C. Separation of variables does not work because you have that cos(ωt).

You need to solve the homogeneous differential equation first to get the complementary solution, then you can make an ansatz for the full differential equation to get the particular solution.
 
doggydan42 said:
On the line where you introduced the natural logarithm, there is a cosine term of t, so you cannot simply say that it is an integral like ##\frac{dQ}{Q+C}##, for some constant C. Separation of variables does not work because you have that cos(ωt).

You need to solve the homogeneous differential equation first to get the complementary solution, then you can make an ansatz for the full differential equation to get the particular solution.
Thank you so much
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K