What is the correct frequency for a 20 cm pipe with open and closed ends?

In summary, the base frequency of a 20 cm pipe open on both ends is 870 Hz, and the base frequency of the same pipe closed on one end is 435 Hz. However, the correct answers are 1140 Hz and 570 Hz respectively, indicating a discrepancy in the calculation.
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Karol
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Homework Statement


What is the base frequency of a 20 cm pipe which is open on both ends.
Again but closed on one end.

Homework Equations


u=velocity, [itex]\lambda[/itex]=wave length: [itex]\lambda=\frac{u}{f}[/itex]
Velocity in air=348[m/sec]

The Attempt at a Solution


I understand these are standing waves in air.
In an open end there is a peak, so the first wavelength is [itex]\lambda=2\cdot 20=40[cm][/itex]
##0.4=\frac{348}{f_1}\rightarrow f_1=870[Hz]##
The answer should be 1140[Hz]
In the closed on one end condition, in the open end there is a peak and in the closed end a node, so the wavelength is [itex]\lambda=4\cdot 20=80[cm][/itex]
##0.8=\frac{348}{f_1}\rightarrow f_1=435[Hz]##
The answer should be 570[Hz]
Both answers differ from the right ones by the same factor
 
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Puzzling.
 
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