What is the correct second derivative for implicit differentiation of r^2 = x^2?

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The correct second derivative for implicit differentiation of the equation r2 = x2 is (r2 - x2) / r3. The user initially calculated d2r/dx2 as -x2/r3, which was incorrect due to a misapplication of algebraic manipulation. The correct steps involve applying the chain rule and correctly rearranging terms to isolate r''. The final expression confirms the relationship between r and x in the context of implicit differentiation.

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I have an equation:

r^2 = x^2

So I found out dr/dx = x/r.

But when I try to find the second derivative, I get d2r/dx2 = -x^2/r^3 when the text says it should be (r^2 - x^2)/r^3.

Can anyone help? My working out:

r^2 - x^2 = 0
r^2 = x^2.
Assume r is a function of x.
rr' = x (first derivative found correctly)
rr'' + r'(x/r) = 1 (apply chain rule and sub in answer for first derivative)
rr'' + x^2/r^2 = 1 (sub in first derivative)

So where have I gone wrong?
 
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djpailo said:
I have an equation:

r^2 = x^2

So I found out dr/dx = x/r.

But when I try to find the second derivative, I get d2r/dx2 = -x^2/r^3 when the text says it should be (r^2 - x^2)/r^3.

Can anyone help? My working out:

r^2 - x^2 = 0
r^2 = x^2.
Assume r is a function of x.
rr' = x (first derivative found correctly)
rr'' + r'(x/r) = 1 (apply chain rule and sub in answer for first derivative)
rr'' + x^2/r^2 = 1 (sub in first derivative)

So where have I gone wrong?

And then where do you go from that last line?
 
Only in the very last steps (after your last line):
rr'' + x2/r2 = 1 ⇔
rr'' = 1 - x2/r2
r'' = 1/r - x2/r3
r'' = ( r2 - x2 ) / r3
 
Haha, you won't believe what I was doing. Instead of subtracting both sides, I was doing a division (for reasons not clear to me or anyone of the known realm)...

GGGAAAAAHHHH

Thanks!
 
I believe you. You are not the only one...
 
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