What Is the Correct Way to Calculate the Probability of Flipping Heads?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of flipping heads when a coin is tossed multiple times. Participants explore the application of probability definitions and formulas, particularly in the context of a coin being tossed 100 times, and whether the initial calculations presented are correct.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reiterate the definition of probability as the number of ways an event can happen divided by the total number of outcomes.
  • One participant proposes that the probability of heads popping up in a single toss is 1/2, leading to a calculation of P(head pops up) = 1/50 for 100 tosses, which is questioned by others.
  • Another participant introduces the binomial probability formula to calculate the probability of obtaining a specific number of heads in multiple tosses.
  • There is a clarification regarding the variables in the binomial formula, where n represents the total number of tosses and m represents the number of heads.
  • Some participants discuss the setup of the binomial coefficient and its relation to calculating the probability of getting exactly two heads in 100 tosses.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the meaning of P(head pops up) and questions the relevance of the initial probability calculation presented.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the initial probability calculation. There are competing views on the interpretation of the probability of heads popping up and the application of the binomial probability formula.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the meaning of certain probability terms and calculations, and there are unresolved questions regarding the initial setup and interpretation of the probability of heads in the context of multiple tosses.

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Probability of an event happening = (Number of ways the event can happen)/(Total number of outcomes)

Please, explain the above definition

How is the above definition applied to the following question.

A coin is tossed 100 times. How many heads will pop up?

Solution:

Let P = probability

A coin has two sides: heads and tails. The head side is 1/2 of the coin.

P(head pops up) = (2)/100

P(head pops up) = (2) ÷ (100/1)

P(head pops up) = (2) (1/100)

P(head pops up) = 1/50

Correct?
 
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RTCNTC said:
Probability of an event happening = (Number of ways the event can happen)/(Total number of outcomes)

Please, explain the above definition

How is the above definition applied to the following question.

A coin is tossed 100 times. How many heads will pop up?

Solution:

Let P = probability

A coin has two sides: heads and tails. The head side is 1/2 of the coin.

P(head pops up) = (2)/100

P(head pops up) = (2) ÷ (100/1)

P(head pops up) = (2) (1/100)

P(head pops up) = 1/50

Correct?

If a coin is tossed $0<n$ times, then any number of heads from 0 to $n$ can result. To find the probability of a given number of heads (we'll call this $0\le m\le n$) resulting, we need to use the binomial probability formula:

$$P(X)={n \choose m}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{m}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{n-m}={n \choose m}2^{-n}$$
 
MarkFL said:
If a coin is tossed $0<n$ times, then any number of heads from 0 to $n$ can result. To find the probability of a given number of heads (we'll call this $0\le m\le n$) resulting, we need to use the binomial probability formula:

$$P(X)={n \choose m}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{m}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{n-m}={n \choose m}2^{-n}$$

Thank you for helping RTCNTC.
 
Harpazo said:
In the formula, does n = 2 and m = 100?

The other way around...n is the total number of tosses, and m is the number of heads. :D
 
Is the set up nCm = 100!/2!(100-2)! * 2^(-100)?
 
RTCNTC said:
Is the set up nCm = 100!/2!(100-2)! * 2^(-100)?

Yes, there are 100 ways to choose the first flip that will be a heads, and 99 ways to choose the second way there will be a heads, and then we need to divide by the two ways to arrange those two heads, and 2^(100) total outcomes, so we get:

$$P(\text{two heads})=\frac{100\cdot99}{2}2^{-100}=\frac{100!}{2!(100-2)!}2^{-100}={100 \choose 2}2^{-100}$$
 
I will work this out on paper.
 
RTCNTC said:
Probability of an event happening = (Number of ways the event can happen)/(Total number of outcomes)

Please, explain the above definition

How is the above definition applied to the following question.

A coin is tossed 100 times. How many heads will pop up?
This is not a probability question and does not have a unique answer.

Solution:

Let P = probability

A coin has two sides: heads and tails. The head side is 1/2 of the coin.

P(head pops up) = (2)/100

P(head pops up) = (2) ÷ (100/1)

P(head pops up) = (2) (1/100)

P(head pops up) = 1/50

Correct?
The correct answer to what question? What does "P(head pops up)" mean? You were told that the probability that a flipped coin will come up heads is 1/2. That is what I would expect P(head pops up) to mean. You can also calculate that the "expected number of heads in 100 flips" is 50. But I don't see where the 1/50 came from and I do not know what question this is supposed to answer.
 

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