What is the Critical Value of Friction for a System of Blocks to Move Together?

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The problem involves a system of three blocks, where one small block is positioned on top of a larger block, and another small block is placed on the side of the larger block. The scenario describes the application of an external force to the side block, with the aim of understanding the conditions under which the blocks will move together, particularly focusing on the coefficient of static friction.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the applied force, normal force, and the coefficient of static friction. Questions arise regarding the implications of decreasing the coefficient of static friction and its effect on the ability of the blocks to move together.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the mechanics involved, particularly regarding the concept of sliding and the conditions that would prevent the blocks from moving together. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between friction and force, but no consensus has been reached.

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There is some ambiguity regarding the shape of the blocks and the specific dynamics of their interaction, which may affect the understanding of the problem. Additionally, the lack of friction between the floor and the larger block is a significant constraint in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


So I have a system with 3 blocks, one small block is on top of the bigger block and another small block is on the left side of the bigger block. You apply an external force to the block on the side such that the system accelerates together. Assuming there is a friction force between the blocks and no friction between floor and the bigger block, the question asks if the coefficient of static friction is less than some critical value, then no matter how hard how you push the system the blocks will not move together. Why?


Homework Equations


F=Ma


The Attempt at a Solution


I know the harder you push, the greater the normal force will be between the small block on the side and the bigger block. I also know that it's friction that allows the block on top to accelerate with the big block. But looking at the questions, I can't see why if you decrease the coeff. of static friction you can't increase the force? Is it because if the coeff. of friction is so small, it would required an infinite force to keep the block on the side from sliding down and to keep the block on top stationary with respect to the bigger block?
 
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rwx1606 said:
… to keep the block on the side from sliding down …

uh? sliding down what? :confused:
 
sliding down the side of the bigger block.
 
rwx1606 said:
sliding down the side of the bigger block.

what shape is this block? :confused:
 
square.
 

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