What is the Dean Paradox and How Does it Relate to Zeno's Paradox?

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The discussion revolves around the Dean Paradox and its relationship to Zeno's Paradox, exploring the implications of infinity in both logical reasoning and physical reality. Participants examine the philosophical and mathematical aspects of these paradoxes, questioning the nature of motion and the concept of traversing infinite points in finite time.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that the Dean Paradox exposes a disconnect between logical reasoning and observable reality, suggesting that logic cannot serve as an authoritative principle in understanding motion.
  • Another participant argues that issues related to infinity and limits are typically resolved through calculus, implying a mathematical framework for understanding the paradox.
  • A participant disagrees with the assertion that logic states it is impossible to traverse an infinite number of points in finite time, suggesting a different interpretation of the relationship between logic and motion.
  • Some participants note that the Dean Paradox appears to be a variation of Zeno's Paradox, questioning the relevance of such philosophical issues in modern discussions.
  • One participant asserts that a finite time interval contains an infinite number of points, arguing that traversing these points does not constitute a paradox.
  • Another participant emphasizes the distinction between scientific and philosophical approaches, suggesting that science relies on observation while philosophy may lead to conclusions about the impossibility of motion.
  • A later reply introduces the idea of an infinite sum converging when considering increasingly smaller distances between points on the time-line.
  • One participant dismisses the discussion as a rehash of Zeno's Paradox, labeling the original content as nonsensical.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some agreeing on the connection between the Dean and Zeno's Paradoxes, while others contest the interpretations and implications of these paradoxes. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives present.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments rely on specific interpretations of logic and infinity, and there are unresolved mathematical considerations regarding the convergence of sums and the nature of motion. The discussion does not reach a consensus on these points.

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A paradox exposing a fundamental disconnect between the logic that underpin physical theories of reality
I found on Stackexchange -physics this paradox that
undermines physics by exposing a fundamental disconnect between the logic that underpin physical theories of reality

the dean paradox-of colin leslie dean

Dean’s paradox highlights a core discrepancy between logical reasoning and lived reality. Logic insists that between two points lies an infinite set of divisions, making it "impossible" to traverse from start to end. Yet, in practice, the finger does move from the beginning to the end in finite time. This contradiction exposes a gap between the abstract constructs of logic and the observable truths of reality. Thus The dean paradox shows logic is not an epistemic principle or condition thus logic cannot be called upon for authority for any view
https://physics.stackexchange.com/q...-by-exposing-a-fundamental-disconnect-between
 
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These sort of issues are generally resolved by the concepts of limits and infinity that one is first exposed to in calculus.
 
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prasanga said:
Logic insists that between two points lies an infinite set of divisions, making it "impossible" to traverse from start to end.
I disagree that logic says it is impossible to traverse an infinite number of points in finite time.
 
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Seems like a variation of Zeno's paradox going back thousands of years.

Philosophy has traditionally always had trouble digesting the concept of infinity, but why someone would considered it a serious issue in modern times is a bit beyond me.
 
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Finite time interval also contains an infinite number of points on the time-line. So traveling through an infinite number of space points takes an infinite number of time points, I see no paradox. :)
 
Demystifier said:
Finite time interval also contains an infinite number of points on the time-line. So traveling through an infinite number of space points takes an infinite number of time points, I see no paradox. :)
In a way, this exemplifies the difference between science and philosophy. Science starts by observing motion and developing the mathematics to model it. Philosophy starts from pure thought and concludes that motion is impossible.
 
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If we consider that the distance between two consecutive points on the time-line is increasingly smaller, we can obtain an infinite sum that converges.
 
This is nothing but a rehash of Zeno's paradox and the quoted content in the original post is crackpot nonsense. Thread will remain closed.
 
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