What is the Definition of a Manifold and How Does it Relate to Topology?

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The discussion revolves around the definition of manifolds, specifically differentiating between general manifolds and topological manifolds. Participants explore the characteristics that define these concepts and their implications in the fields of topology and differential geometry.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a general definition of a manifold and specifically a topological manifold.
  • Another participant provides a definition of a topological manifold, noting that it must be locally Euclidean and may include additional axioms such as being Hausdorff and second countable.
  • It is mentioned that the term "manifold" can have different meanings depending on the context, with differential geometers and topologists potentially referring to different types of manifolds.
  • A participant questions the meaning of "second countable," prompting a clarification that it refers to a topological space having a countable basis of open sets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants acknowledge that definitions of manifolds can vary based on context, indicating a lack of consensus on a singular definition. The discussion remains open with multiple perspectives on the topic.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on definitions and the varying interpretations of the term "manifold" across different mathematical disciplines. There are unresolved aspects regarding the implications of the additional axioms for topological manifolds.

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i see the definition of differential manifolds in some book for example, NAKAHARA

but what is the definition of manifold in general!
and what the definition of topological manifold.
 
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The definition of a topological manifold depends. But you always have the following:

M is a topological manifold if it is a topological space satisfying:

1) M is locally Euclidean: For every point p in M, there is an integer n>0 and an open set U of p such that U is homeomorphic to an open subset of \mathbb{R}^n.

Sometimes, we demand (some of) the following extra axioms:

2) M is Hausdorff

3) M is second countable
 
Different people mean different things when they say "manifold". For example, a differential geometer will likely mean differential manifold (or maybe ##C^r## manifold or ...) whereas a topologist might mean topological manifold. So it's always a good idea to be aware of what type of manifold is under consideration.

As to what is a topological manifold - have you tried doing a google search? It's really easy to find a definition online, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topological_manifold

Note that a differential manifold is in particular a topological manifold.
 
what s the meaning of second countable?
 
A second countable topological space is one which has a countable basis. I.e. it has a countable collection of open sets such that every open set can be expressed as a union of sets in this collection.
 

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