What is the Definition of Moduli of Elasticity?

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The discussion centers around the definition and understanding of linear algebra, its applications, and its relevance in various fields, including physics and engineering. Participants share their experiences and perspectives on the subject, touching on its complexity and utility.

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  • Some participants describe linear algebra as dealing with vectors, vector spaces, linear transformations, and systems of linear equations.
  • Others mention that linear algebra is foundational for various scientific disciplines, emphasizing its practical applications.
  • A few participants express that the subject can be perceived as easy or straightforward, while others find it potentially confusing due to its abstract concepts.
  • There are differing opinions on the necessity of references to functional analysis and analytic geometry, with some finding them unnecessary and others considering them important.
  • One participant humorously claims that linear algebra does not exist as a standalone subject but is instead part of understanding linear differential operators.
  • Concerns are raised about the depth of material covered in linear algebra courses compared to calculus courses.
  • Participants discuss the relevance of linear algebra in computer science and engineering, noting its importance in various applications.
  • There is a repeated request for a definition of the moduli of elasticity, indicating a shift in focus within the thread.

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Participants generally agree on the foundational aspects of linear algebra and its applications, but there are multiple competing views regarding its complexity and the necessity of certain concepts. The discussion about the moduli of elasticity remains unresolved, with participants seeking clarification.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the relevance of certain mathematical concepts, and there are mentions of differing educational experiences regarding the depth and intensity of linear algebra courses.

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HI, I am taking linear algebra this semester, So i wanted to know..what does linear algebra deals with? Is it really hard? Can sonme one shed some light?
 
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The hadnwavy stuff:

It deals with potentially any aspect of maths that is algebraic, so involves operations of addition and multiplication, and such that these operations are linear. Something earns the title linear if it has to do with lines, planes and so on. Such things can be given by equations that are linear in the sense of they only involve x,y etc and NOT x^2, y^2 or higher powers.

It is a vast subject, and it is very easy to learn, hard to describe because there is so much of it. I suspect your course will deal with:

vectors, vector spaces, linear maps (matrices), solving linear equations in more than one unknown. It might go on to talk about determinants, eigenvectors, eigenspaces.

It is practical, and has a very elegant theoretical aspect as well, but above all what you're going to do with it is most definitely not difficult.
 
Good definition!

Here is mine

Linear algebra is the branch of mathematics concerned with the study of vectors, vector spaces (or linear spaces), linear transformations, and systems of linear equations. Vector spaces are a central theme in modern mathematics; thus, linear algebra is widely used in both abstract algebra and functional analysis. Linear algebra also has a concrete representation in analytic geometry. ...
May sound complicated, not really though...
 
for me the reference to functional analysis and analytic geometry is unnecessary, confusing, and overly complicated. who is going to even need to know what analytic geometry is?
 
Linear Algebra

Ishu said:
HI, I am taking linear algebra this semester, So i wanted to know..what does linear algebra deals with? Is it really hard? Can sonme one shed some light?
Hello,
Linear Algebra is indispensable for the study of the most topics in physical, biological, social, and natural sciences. For examples It deals with systems of linear equations and matrices. Determinats, Vector space, Real inner product space Linear transformations, Eginvalues, Eginvactors, and Quadratic forms. There are more about matrix and decompositions in higher rank, but in the elementary Linear Algebra you are dealing with previuos subject.
Kouros
 
In english that would mean
y=x+c
or
y=ax^2+bx+c
...kind of equations... So don't be discouraged by the words used in the various definitions given.
 
linear algebra is like oatmeal, not much to it, but it will never let you down, and is frequently useful.


actually there is no such thing as linear algebra but there is such a thing as a linear differential operator. i.e. learn about linear differential equations and you will understand linear algebra.:-p
 
mathwonk said:
linear algebra is like oatmeal, not much to it, but it will never let you down, and is frequently useful.
actually there is no such thing as linear algebra but there is such a thing as a linear differential operator. i.e. learn about linear differential equations and you will understand linear algebra.:-p

i.e. if sin(x) and cos(x) are both solutions of y'' + y = 0, why is 2sin(x) + 7cos(x) also a solution? that is linear algebra.:!)
 
This is not Linear Algebra You are talking about

dy/dx said:
In english that would mean
y=x+c
or
y=ax^2+bx+c
...kind of equations... So don't be discouraged by the words used in the various definitions given.


NOTICED !

Hello
what are you talking about is Algebra not Linear Algebara.
 
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As I define that the subject of linear Algebra are:
It deals with systems of linear equations and matrices. Determinats, Vector space, Real inner product space Linear transformations, Eginvalues, Eginvactors, and Quadratic forms. There are more about matrix and decompositions in higher rank, but in the elementary Linear Algebra you are dealing with previuos subject.
 
  • #11
Hello these equation
What are you writing for example: y=x+c y=ax^2+bx+c is belong to subject of Algebra.
Regards
Kouros
 
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No differential equations is other subject of mathematics. As I have studied both of that, it is simply deals with vectors and vector spaces. It is not really difficult subject, it is very useful and there are a lot of applications where you can use that.
 
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Matt Grime, you are right and that definition is perfect.
 
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coordinate geometry

The study of the geometry of figures by algebraic representation and manipulation of equations describing their positions, configurations, and separations. Analytic geometry is also called coordinate geometry since the objects are described as -tuples of points (where in the plane and 3 in space) in some coordinate system.
 
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Can someone define what is Moduli of elasticity ?
 
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i've just finished my course in linear algebra. and at my university, it wasn't just boring (to me anyway) but it was a giant waste of time. unfortunately, we covered more complex linear algebra material in our calculus course than in the actual LA course.

linear algebra is good for a backbone, deals with vectors and matrices plenty which become very useful in physics. I tried to do algebra instead but they insist on physicists here taking the LA course instead which seems to be about a third of the intensity, anyone know why that might be? i guessed they might want to introduce kinds of math in physics itself but I think i'd have preferred to boost my math knowledge as high as possible.

my LA course was easy with a bit of work, subjective of course but meh, you'll be fine.
 
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It is very useful subject you use that for all your scientific field in computer science programming and all Engineering and sciences. There are 2 kinds of course in my University one is Linear Algebra, and other is higher rank called Matrix. Which deal with LU decompositions.
 
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Can someone define what is Moduli of elasticity ?

Kouros Khamoushi said:
Can someone define what is Moduli of elasticity ?

The modoli of elasticity Elastic compliance and stifness constants. For example Hook's law state that for small deformations the strain is proportional to the stress, so that strain components are linear functions of the stress components.
Cxx=s11Xx+S12 Yy+s13+s14Yz+s15Zx+S16Xy;
Cyy=s21Xx+S22 Yy+s23+s24Yz+s25Zx+S26Xy;
Czz=..........;
Cyz=..........;
Czx=..........;
Cxy=..........;
 

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