What is the difference between average speed and average velocity?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the difference between average speed and average velocity in the context of a runner's motion along a straight track. The scenario involves calculating both quantities based on the runner's total distance and displacement over a specified time period.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of average speed and average velocity, with one participant expressing confusion about how to determine velocity after calculating speed. There is an exploration of the definitions of speed and velocity, particularly the distinction between distance and displacement.

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Some participants have provided hints and clarifications regarding the definitions of speed and velocity. There is an ongoing exploration of how displacement is calculated, with one participant questioning their understanding of displacement in the context of the runner's path.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. The discussion reflects a learning process where assumptions about displacement are being examined.

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hey guys I am very new to physics and its just not making sense at the moment and i know this is a very simple question but i just don't get how to get the velocity ! I've worked out the average speed but i have no idea what the next step is to get the velocity, any hints would be very much appreciated cheers =)

1. 2.A straight track is 1600 m in length. A runner begins at the starting line, runs due east for the full length of the track, turns around, and runs halfway back. The time for this run is five minutes.
What is the runner’s average velocity
and what is his average speed?




2. v=x/t



3. what I've worked out so far is distance is 2400m and 5 minutes is 300s
average speed = 2400m / 300s
= 8.0 m/s
 
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physkid1 said:
hey guys I am very new to physics and its just not making sense at the moment and i know this is a very simple question but i just don't get how to get the velocity ! I've worked out the average speed but i have no idea what the next step is to get the velocity, any hints would be very much appreciated cheers =)

1. 2.A straight track is 1600 m in length. A runner begins at the starting line, runs due east for the full length of the track, turns around, and runs halfway back. The time for this run is five minutes.
What is the runner’s average velocity
and what is his average speed?




2. v=x/t



3. what I've worked out so far is distance is 2400m and 5 minutes is 300s
average speed = 2400m / 300s
= 8.0 m/s

That's good for the average speed - since speed is distance / time.

How do we calculate Velocity?
hint: velocity is a vector.
 
You got speed right, speed is distance over time.
Velocity is actually displacement over time.
 
ok so I've worked out that average velocity = 800m/300s which gives us 2.66 east (rounded up to 2.7) but i don't totally understand why I've used 800m, how is 800m the displacement, i thought the displacement would have been the 1600m in the east direction not 800 back to the west ?
 
physkid1 said:
ok so I've worked out that average velocity = 800m/300s which gives us 2.66 east (rounded up to 2.7) but i don't totally understand why I've used 800m, how is 800m the displacement, i thought the displacement would have been the 1600m in the east direction not 800 back to the west ?

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You gave the velocity as 2.7 m/s, East [correct]

What do you mean "i thought the displacement would have been the 1600m in the east direction not 800 back to the west ?"

800m East is what you get when you go 1600m East and THEN 800 m back to the West from there.
Moving 800m to the west will not get you West of your original starting position? [because you first went 1600m to the east]

EDIT: Perhaps it would have been clearer if the trip had only included 700m West, so that displacement was 900 East and you would not have been distracted by the numerical values being the same.
 
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PeterO said:
800m East is what you get when you go 1600m East and THEN 800 m back to the West from there.
Moving 800m to the west will not get you West of your original starting position? [because you first went 1600m to the east]

ohhhhh that makes total sense =)

the difference between the path of the initial and final position being the definition of displacement

the displacement then is actually 800m east from the initial position (1600 - 800, (800 being halfway back of 1600) as you stated)

thanks heaps =)
 

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