What is the difference between quantum mechanics and QFT?

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The discussion centers on the distinctions between quantum mechanics (QM) and quantum field theory (QFT), exploring their definitions, applications, and the mathematical frameworks involved. Participants also touch on related concepts such as Feynman diagrams, Lie algebras, and the use of Pauli matrices within Hilbert spaces.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that QM describes interactions of particles, while QFT uses fields to model these interactions.
  • One participant notes that Feynman diagrams are primarily associated with QFT, although they can be used in QM to a lesser extent.
  • Another participant explains that QM can refer to theories with a fixed number of particles, while QFT involves fields that obey quantum mechanics.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of orthogonal bases in Hilbert spaces, with claims that orthogonality simplifies calculations.
  • Some participants express curiosity about the role of Lie algebras in quantum theories, particularly in relation to symmetries.
  • Participants mention that the Pauli matrices are important for studying particle spin and angular momentum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the relationship between QM and QFT, with no clear consensus on definitions or applications. Some agree on the use of Feynman diagrams in both theories, while others emphasize their primary association with QFT.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of quantum mechanics and quantum field theory, as well as the mathematical structures involved, which may not be universally agreed upon.

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Hi,

I'm an undergrad that has not taken quantum mechanics... What exactly is the distinction between quantum mechanics and quantum field theory? Does quantum mechanics describe the interactions of particles? Are Feynman diagrams used in quantum mechanics?

I have been doing some reading over the internet and everything is starting to blur together... Also, if anyone can explain why Lie Algebra is used, that would be much appreciated...and why we need the Pauli matrices to form an orthogonal basis (why orthogonal?) in Hilbert Space (why not Euclidean?)

Thanks...
 
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I suggest you ask separate questions in different thread...
For your main question, look at the first few pages of David Tong's QFT notes, under the section "Why Quantum Field Theory". Hope that helps.
 
Thank you, I just took a quick look and read one sentence that is very helpful..

"The primary reason for introducing the concept of the field is to construct laws of Nature which are local"...

Appreciate it!
 
hi lonewolf219! :smile:
lonewolf219 said:
What exactly is the distinction between quantum mechanics and quantum field theory? Does quantum mechanics describe the interactions of particles? Are Feynman diagrams used in quantum mechanics?

QM is physics (including the maths tools necessary for the physics).

QFT is a maths tool.

Feynman diagrams are only used as part of QFT.
Also, if anyone can explain why Lie Algebra is used, that would be much appreciated...and why we need the Pauli matrices to form an orthogonal basis (why orthogonal?) in Hilbert Space (why not Euclidean?)

In QM, everything has an amplitude.

The probability is the amplitude times its complex conjugate.

That means the amplitudes must be in a space with an inner product and a complex conjugate … we call that a Hilbert space. :wink:

The different basis elements of a Hilbert space must be orthogonal (ie have inner product zero with each other). Making calculations would be impossibly long if we didn't express everything in terms of basis elements, that's why we need them.
 
lonewolf219 said:
Hi,

I'm an undergrad that has not taken quantum mechanics... What exactly is the distinction between quantum mechanics and quantum field theory?
Quantum field theory refers to several different theories were objects called "fields", obeying
the laws of quantum mechanics, are used to model particle interactions.

Quantum Mechanics can refer to any quantum theory. Sometimes it is used to specifically
mean quantum theories which involve a fixed number of particles interacting with various classical potential energy distributions.

For example, you can make a quantum mechanical model of hydrogen. Here the electron is quantum mechanical and the coloumb potential is classical.

In a quantum field theory model of hydrogen, the electron is just a part of the electron field and the coloumb potential also results from the quantised photon field.

Does quantum mechanics describe the interactions of particles? Are Feynman diagrams used in quantum mechanics?
Yes, to the first question. For the second question, yes they are, but not as commonly as the would be in quantum field theory.

I have been doing some reading over the internet and everything is starting to blur together... Also, if anyone can explain why Lie Algebra is used, that would be much appreciated...
Lie algebras are just a certain type of algebra (vector spaces with a multiplication rule). They are important because they pop up in studying symmetries in quantum theories.

and why we need the Pauli matrices to form an orthogonal basis (why orthogonal?)
The Pauli matricies are related to angular momentum, we need them when studying the spin of particles. We would want an orthogonal basis because it's mathematically much simpler, it separates angular momentum into three mutually perpendicular directions.

in Hilbert Space (why not Euclidean?)
Quantum Mechanics uses Hilbert spaces, not Euclidean spaces.
 
:smile:Great! Thank you very much! I wish I asked earlier!
 
I was too about to say something, but DarMM said it all. :biggrin:
 

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