What is the Eigenvalue and Eigenvector for a Complex Matrix Equation?

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The discussion revolves around finding the eigenvalue and eigenvector for a complex matrix equation involving invertible matrices A and B, which have eigenvalues α and β with respect to a common eigenvector x. The specific equation under consideration is a combination of these matrices and an identity matrix.

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  • Participants discuss the process of determining the eigenvalue by substituting the known eigenvalues of matrices A and B into the equation. There is uncertainty about how to derive the corresponding eigenvector without specific values for the matrices. Some participants question the feasibility of solving for the eigenvector given the lack of dimensional information and the complexity of the expressions involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationship between the eigenvalues and the common eigenvector. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the eigenvector, but there remains uncertainty about how to proceed without additional information about the matrices.

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Participants note that the eigenvector x is defined as the common eigenvector of matrices A and B, but the specific values or dimensions of these matrices are not provided, leading to challenges in further analysis.

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Homework Statement



If invertible matrices A and B have eigenvalues α and β resp. wrt to a common eigenvector x, what is the eigenvalue of

4A3B-4-17AB2 + ∏I

(We'll call this equation (1))

Homework Equations



Ax = αx
Bx = βx

The Attempt at a Solution



I think I'm ok for the actual eigenvalue. Basically we "exchange" α for A and β for B in the equation above, since Ax = αx implies A2x = α2x and so on and so forth. ∏I is just an identity matrix multiplied by ∏, so it's eigenvalue is ∏ (with multiplicity two).

So I get 4α24 - 17αβ2 + ∏

But I can't seem to figure out how to approach getting the corresponding Eigenvector. I know the characteristic equation

det(A - λI) = 0

may tell me something, but if I plug in (1) for A and the eigenvalue above for λ I just get a complete mess.

-Dave K
 
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dkotschessaa said:

Homework Statement



If invertible matrices A and B have eigenvalues α and β resp. wrt to a common eigenvector x, what is the eigenvalue of

4A3B-4-17AB2 + ∏I

(We'll call this equation (1))

Homework Equations



Ax = αx
Bx = βx


The Attempt at a Solution



I think I'm ok for the actual eigenvalue. Basically we "exchange" α for A and β for B in the equation above, since Ax = αx implies A2x = α2x and so on and so forth. ∏I is just an identity matrix multiplied by ∏, so it's eigenvalue is ∏ (with multiplicity two).

So I get 4α24 - 17αβ2 + ∏

But I can't seem to figure out how to approach getting the corresponding Eigenvector. I know the characteristic equation

det(A - λI) = 0

may tell me something, but if I plug in (1) for A and the eigenvalue above for λ I just get a complete mess.

-Dave K

You can't really find the eigenvector unless you have actual values for the A and B matrices. Do you?
 
Hi Dave!

Let's call C = 4A3B-4-17AB2 + ∏I
Then, as you said, Cx = (4α24 - 17αβ2 + ∏)x

Let's call λ=4α24 - 17αβ2 + ∏.
Then Cxx.

You had already found the eigenvalue λ.
What do you think the corresponding eigenvector is? :wink:
 
I like Serena said:
Hi Dave!

Let's call C = 4A3B-4-17AB2 + ∏I
Then, as you said, Cx = (4α24 - 17αβ2 + ∏)x

Let's call λ=4α24 - 17αβ2 + ∏.
Then Cxx.

You had already found the eigenvalue λ.
What do you think the corresponding eigenvector is? :wink:

I did try that but I'm not sure how to "solve" for x. As the other poster pointed out, I don't even know what the values of C are... I don't even know what dimension so I can't use some identity matrix and use λ (the mess) as a scalar... Not sure what I'm supposed to do.
 
dkotschessaa said:
I did try that but I'm not sure how to "solve" for x. As the other poster pointed out, I don't even know what the values of C are... I don't even know what dimension so I can't use some identity matrix and use λ (the mess) as a scalar... Not sure what I'm supposed to do.

You can't solve for x any more than you can solve for α and β. x is the eigenvector. I think you are done.
 
dkotschessaa said:
I did try that but I'm not sure how to "solve" for x. As the other poster pointed out, I don't even know what the values of C are... I don't even know what dimension so I can't use some identity matrix and use λ (the mess) as a scalar... Not sure what I'm supposed to do.

The vector x is given as the common eigenvector of A and B.
None of them is specified other than that they are given to exist.
C has the same common eigenvector x as A and B.
 
Dick said:
You can't solve for x any more than you can solve for α and β. x is the eigenvector. I think you are done.

Yeah, we went over this in class, and the eigenvector is just x. Ok then. Thanks everyone.
 

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