What is the equation for approximating propeller thrust at a known RPM?

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The discussion revolves around finding an equation to approximate the thrust generated by a propeller at a known RPM. It includes considerations of static versus dynamic thrust, propeller efficiency, and the context of different types of aircraft, such as model airplanes versus FAA certified aircraft.

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  • Some participants inquire about equations for approximating propeller thrust at a known RPM.
  • Others mention that propeller efficiency, velocity, and engine horsepower are necessary to calculate net thrust.
  • One participant notes that static thrust differs from dynamic thrust and references propeller efficiency graphs available on websites.
  • There is a distinction made between model airplane propellers and those used in FAA certified aircraft, with one participant sharing their experience in designing an airplane.
  • Another participant suggests that the energy method is useful for initial sizing of propellers but emphasizes the importance of obtaining the correct loading rate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of certain equations and methods for calculating thrust, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the availability of specific propeller efficiency data, which some participants note is proprietary. Additionally, the discussion highlights the differences in thrust calculations for various types of aircraft.

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Is there some equation i can use in order to approx. find the trust created by a prop at a known RPM??




-Tom
 
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prop websites normally have this graphed, though as you may know, static thrust is different than dynamic thrust.

I designed an airplane and competed with it once.

Attached is my teams report. You may find some interesting information in this document.
Pg 24 talks about thrusts and stuff.

enjoy...
 

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thomasxc said:
Is there some equation i can use in order to approx. find the trust created by a prop at a known RPM??

-Tom

You can look up the propeller efficiency. You need to know this number, along with the velocity and HP of the engine to calculate the net thrust.

Page 396 in Raymers book, "Aircraft design" by the AIAA explains this.
 
Nick Bruno said:
prop websites normally have this graphed, though as you may know, static thrust is different than dynamic thrust.

I designed an airplane and competed with it once.

Attached is my teams report. You may find some interesting information in this document.
Pg 24 talks about thrusts and stuff.

enjoy...

Actually, that's proprietary information they don't give on their websites. I've had to call up the engineers at McCauley to get this information.

I think you are talking about model airplane propellers, whereas I am talking about propellers for FAA certified aircraft 2000lbs+.

Nice CAD drawing. All in all, looks like a very fun senior design project (if that's what it is).
 
yes, i was talking about models :).

and yes it was a senior design project. was a lot of fun lol
 
Cyrus said:
You can look up the propeller efficiency. You need to know this number, along with the velocity and HP of the engine to calculate the net thrust.

Page 396 in Raymers book, "Aircraft design" by the AIAA explains this.

Agree, energy method is very useful at initial sizing and that suits you case.
But make sure you get the loading rate that's a good problem.
 

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