What is the equilibrium angle - dipoles?

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The discussion revolves around the equilibrium angle between two coplanar dipoles, specifically how to determine the angle θ' when one angle θ is fixed. The context involves understanding the torque exerted by one dipole on another and the conditions for equilibrium.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the equilibrium angle using torque equations and expresses confusion regarding the expected outcome. Some participants question the reasoning behind the expectation of θ' being 180-θ, while others suggest checking limiting cases to validate the findings.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the equilibrium conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the dipoles and the electric field, but no consensus has been reached on the expected angle.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of fixing one angle while allowing the other to adjust, as well as the potential energy considerations for the system of dipoles. There is mention of specific cases that may influence the overall energy configuration.

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Homework Statement



Two coplanar dipoles are oriented as shown below.
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If θ is fixed, what is the equilibrium angle θ' ?

Homework Equations



The torque exerted by dipole P on dipole P' is given by $$\vec{N'}=\vec{P'}\times\vec{E}$$ where vector E is the electric field.

The Attempt at a Solution



I think $$\vec{E}(r, \theta)=\frac{P}{4\pi\epsilon_0r^3}(2\cos\theta\hat{r}+\sin\theta\hat{\theta})$$ where P is the magnitude of dipole P, and $$\vec{P'}=P'\cos{\theta'}\hat{r}+P'\sin{\theta'}\hat{\theta}$$ so $$\vec{N'}=\frac{PP'}{4\pi\epsilon_0r^3}(\cos{\theta'}\sin{\theta}-2\sin{\theta'}\cos{\theta})\hat{\phi}$$ and the equilibrium angle would be such that the torque is zero. However, that gives me $$\theta'=\tan^{-1}(\frac{\tan{\theta}}{2})$$, and I was expecting an answer more like θ'=180-θ.

Am I doing something wrong?
 

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Your answer looks correct to me. Note that the torque is zero when ##\vec{P}'## is parallel to ##\vec{E}##. So, you just need to find the direction of ##\vec{E}##.

Why were you expecting θ'=180-θ? To gain confidence that your answer might be correct, check some limiting cases such as θ = 0 and θ = 90o.
 
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I was expecting that answer because of the fact that dipoles tend to counter-align with each other
 
If you allow both θ and θ' to adjust themselves to give minimum potential energy for the system of two dipoles, the dipoles will align parallel to each other and parallel to the line connecting them. That is, you find that the lowest energy is θ = θ' = 0 or θ = θ' = 180o.

If you fix θ at 90o, then the other dipole will orient itself anti-parallel to the first dipole to achieve minimum energy (i.e., θ' = 90o). But the overall energy will not be as low as the θ = θ' = 0 case.

For a system of many dipoles in a lattice, you get interesting patterns.
See http://www.evsc.net/projects/dipole-spin-system and https://vimeo.com/album/16185
 

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