What is the explanation for the sequence in the Mandl QFT textbook (p.53)?

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The discussion revolves around a sequence of equations presented in the Mandl QFT textbook, specifically on page 53. Participants seek clarification on the transformations between these equations, which involve commutators and vacuum expectation values in quantum field theory. The scope includes theoretical aspects of quantum field operators and their properties.

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  • Post 1 questions whether the vacuum expected value of the commutator equals the commutator itself when moving from equation 1 to equation 2.
  • Post 1 also inquires if the term <0|φ^-(x')φ^+(x)|0> is null when transitioning from equation 2 to equation 3.
  • Post 1 further asks if the terms <0|φ^+(x)φ^+(x')|0>, <0|φ^-(x)φ^+(x')|0>, and <0|φ^-(x)φ^-(x')|0> are all null when moving from equation 3 to equation 4.
  • Post 2 asserts that the terms in equations 2, 3, and 4 are indeed null due to the properties of the absorption operator φ^+ and the annihilation operator φ^-.
  • Post 4 references Weinberg's work, suggesting that the context involves rearranging operators and their numerical factors, which may relate to the sequence in Mandl's equations.
  • Post 5 suggests sandwiching equation 1 between <0| and |0> to clarify the transition to equation 2, noting that the left side of equation 1 is a c-number.

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Participants express differing views on the transformations between the equations, particularly regarding the nature of the vacuum expectation values and the null terms. There is no consensus on the implications of the first transformation or the overall interpretation of the sequence.

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Some participants reference other texts, such as Weinberg, to provide context, but there is no agreement on the interpretations or implications of the equations in Mandl's textbook. The discussion includes assumptions about operator properties that remain unverified.

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Could anyone please explain the sequence below taken from Mandl QFT textbook (p.53)?

1. [itex]i\hbar c\Delta^+(x-x')=[\phi^+(x),\phi^-(x')][/itex]

2. [itex]i\hbar c\Delta^+(x-x')=\langle 0|[\phi^+(x),\phi^-(x')]|0\rangle[/itex]

3. [itex]i\hbar c\Delta^+(x-x')=\langle 0|\phi^+(x)\phi^-(x')|0\rangle[/itex]

4. [itex]i\hbar c\Delta^+(x-x')=\langle 0|\phi(x)\phi(x')|0\rangle[/itex]

From 1. to 2. does it mean that the vacuum expected value of the commutator is the commutator itself? How?

From 2. to 3. does it mean that the term [itex]\langle 0|\phi^-(x')\phi^+(x)|0\rangle[/itex] is null? How?

From 3. to 4. does it mean that the terms

[itex]\langle 0|\phi^+(x)\phi^+(x')|0\rangle[/itex]

[itex]\langle 0|\phi^-(x)\phi^+(x')|0\rangle[/itex]

[itex]\langle 0|\phi^-(x)\phi^-(x')|0\rangle[/itex]

are all null? How?

Thank you for any help.
 
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Yes to 2, 3 and 4. φ+ is an absorption operator, so φ+|0> = 0 since there is nothing to absorb. Likewise <0|φ- = 0.
 
Thank you. What about the first transformation?
 
I don't have a copy of Mandl to compare, but I'm looking at Weinberg section 6.1 where he says something similar. He's evaluating the S-matrix as a sum of terms, <0| ... |0> where ... is a string of creation and annihilation operators, and he's talking about rearranging the order of the operators. Every time you switch the order of two of them you get a numerical factor.

And on p262 he says: (f) Pairing of a field ψ with a field adjoint ψ in H(y) yields a factor -iΔ(x,y). (I'm leaving some subscripts out.) This is close to what you're saying. So I think the context is that Mandl's Eq (1) represents a subexpression that's eventually going to be placed between <0| |0>'s.
 
To go from eq.1 to eq.2, sandwich eq.1 between <0| and |0>. Use the fact that the left side of eq.1 is just a c-number (not an operator), and so on the left we just get that function times <0|0>=1.
 

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