What is the Explanation for the Zero Value in the Steiner Theorem Demonstration?

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The discussion revolves around the Steiner theorem demonstration, specifically focusing on the term \(2r\int{x} dm\) and why it evaluates to zero. Participants are exploring the implications of the center of mass being at the origin in a coordinate system.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the reasoning behind the integral \(2r\int{x} dm\) being zero, with some referencing the definition of the center of mass. Others express confusion about the integration process and its implications.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their interpretations and seeking clarification on the mathematical reasoning involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the center of mass, but there is still uncertainty among participants about the integration and its results.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the coordinate system is centered at the center of mass, which is a key point of discussion. There is also mention of potential misunderstandings related to the differential aspect of the integral.

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I have a doubt about the steiner theorem demonstration, its actually trivial, but I can't realize why is this.

Lets see, the demonstration which you can see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_axis_theorem" goes as follows:

[tex]I_{cm} = \int{(x^2 + y^2)} dm[/tex]

[tex]I_z = \int{((x - r)^2 + y^2)} dm[/tex]

[tex]I_z = \int{(x^2 + y^2)} dm + r^2 \int dm - 2r\int{x} dm[/tex]

[tex]I_z = I_{cm} + mr^2[/tex]

What I need to know is why this gives zero:
[tex]2r\int{x} dm[/tex]

Bye there, and thanks for your help :)
 
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Telemachus said:
What I need to know is why this gives zero:
[tex]2r\int{x} dm[/tex]
Because they are using a coordinate system in which the center of mass is at the origin, so:
Xcm ≡ (∫xdm)/M = 0
 
I don't get it. I actually read that explanation before. That integral wouldn't give: [tex]2rxM[/tex]? being M the total mass...? I'm not seeing the "differential" thing and how it works to give zero, I think that's the problem. It must be like integrating over a null area, but I don't see it.
 
Telemachus said:
I don't get it. I actually read that explanation before. That integral wouldn't give: [tex]2rxM[/tex]? being M the total mass...? I'm not seeing the "differential" thing and how it works to give zero, I think that's the problem. It must be like integrating over a null area, but I don't see it.
Do you agree that the x-coordinate of the center of mass is given by:

[tex]x_{cm} = \frac{1}{M} \int x dm[/tex]

where M is the total mass?
 
Right. I see it now :P thanks.
 

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