What is the force exerted on the liquid by the pot?

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The discussion revolves around multiple physics problems, primarily focusing on forces and tensions in various scenarios. The first problem involves a flowerpot dropping into a viscous liquid, raising questions about the force exerted on the liquid by the pot. Other problems include analyzing tensions in strings supporting a block and the dynamics of a hanging sphere in a moving car.

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  • Participants explore the application of Newton's laws to determine forces and tensions in different contexts. There is an attempt to calculate deceleration and forces acting on the pot in the liquid, with some questioning the correctness of their methods. Others discuss resolving tensions into components and applying equilibrium conditions for suspended objects.

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Some participants have provided calculations and insights into the problems, particularly regarding the tension in the strings and the forces acting on the pot. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between forces, with no clear consensus reached on the correct approach for all questions. Participants are encouraged to clarify their reasoning and share their progress.

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Participants note the importance of showing units in calculations and the need for free body diagrams to visualize forces. There is mention of homework constraints and the necessity to adhere to specific problem setups, which may affect the interpretations of the questions.

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I have a few questions on some homework I'm trying to do:

1) A 3.5 kg flowerpot drops from a tall building. The initial speed of the pot is zero, and you may neglect air resistance.

After the pot has fallen 33 m, it enters a viscous liquid, which brings it to rest over a distance of 1.5 m. Assuming constant deceleration over this distance, what is the magnitude of this deceleration?

I found the force to be 215.56 (I know this is correct).

Now, here's the part I can't figure out:

What is the force exerted on the liquid by the pot?

I did F = ma but that was not the correct answer. What did I do wrong?

2) A block of mass M = 15 kg is suspended at rest by two strings attached to walls, as shown in the figure. The left string is horizontal and the right string makes an angle theta = 50° with the horizontal. What is the tension in the left string?

3) A 0.6 kg sphere hangs on a string from the ceiling of an automobile. The car has a constant horizontal acceleration and the string is displaced an angle θ = 65.2° from the vertical. To a person sitting inside the car, it appears that the sphere is motionless (the angle between the sphere and the vertical is constant). What is the magnitude of the acceleration of the car?

Thanks for any and all help.
 
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I have a few questions on some homework I'm trying to do:

1) A 3.5 kg flowerpot drops from a tall building. The initial speed of the pot is zero, and you may neglect air resistance.

After the pot has fallen 33 m, it enters a viscous liquid, which brings it to rest over a distance of 1.5 m. Assuming constant deceleration over this distance, what is the magnitude of this deceleration?

I found the force to be 215.56 (I know this is correct).

Now, here's the part I can't figure out:

What is the force exerted on the liquid by the pot?

I did F = ma but that was not the correct answer. What did I do wrong?

2) A block of mass M = 15 kg is suspended at rest by two strings attached to walls, as shown in the figure. The left string is horizontal and the right string makes an angle theta = 50° with the horizontal. What is the tension in the left string?

3) A 0.6 kg sphere hangs on a string from the ceiling of an automobile. The car has a constant horizontal acceleration and the string is displaced an angle θ = 65.2° from the vertical. To a person sitting inside the car, it appears that the sphere is motionless (the angle between the sphere and the vertical is constant). What is the magnitude of the acceleration of the car?

Thanks for any and all help.
In problem 1, you found the acceleration to be -215.6 m/s/s. I think this is what you meant, always show your units. Then you can use F_net =ma to solve for F_net, bearing in mind that that F_net = N - mg, where mg is the weight and N is the average liquid force acting on the pot. Swap signage for the force of the pot on the liquid, per Newton III.
In problems 2 and 3, show what you've come up with thus far.
 
For question 2 resolive the tension of the cord into its components tsin50 and tcos50. Use Newtons laws. Obviously the sum of the forces are going to be zero in the x and y directions since the object is suspended and not moving, therefore no acceleration. I called up and to the right the positive directions. I am calling the left string T1 and the right T2.

The most important thing to do is draw yourself a free body diagram once resolving all vectors into components.

Fy=0 Fx=0
T2sin50-mg=0 T2cos50-T1=0
T2sin50=mg T2cos50=T1
T2sin50=15kg(9.8m/s^2) 192Ncos50=T1
T2sin50=147N 123.4=T1
T2=147N/sin50
T2= about 192N
 
For question 2 resolive the tension of the cord into its components tsin50 and tcos50. Use Newtons laws. Obviously the sum of the forces are going to be zero in the x and y directions since the object is suspended and not moving, therefore no acceleration. I called up and to the right the positive directions. I am calling the left string T1 and the right T2.

The most important thing to do is draw yourself a free body diagram once resolving all vectors into components.

Fy=0
T2sin50-mg=0
T2sin50=mg
T2sin50=15kg(9.8m/s^2)
T2sin50=147N
T2=147N/sin50
T2= about 192N

Fx=0
T2cos50-T1=0
T2cos50=T1
192Ncos50=T1
123.4=T1

sorry about last post came out a little unclear
 
For #2 I had something similar to what rmarkatos said, but I think I skipped a step and therefore got the wrong answer.

For #3 I'm not really sure. We had a mass in an elevator where the rope could handle a certain amount of tension (60N) before it broke and we had to find the maximum acceleration, but I'm not sure if this is the same as what I'm doing for #3. Basically, the mass was 5kg and acceleration was a. So I used T^2 = (mg)^2 + (ma)^2 and got the right answer but I don't think that's what I'm supposed to use for this.
 
I am still having trouble with #2 and #3, does anyone have any idea?
 

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