What is the formula for work and how can it be defined?

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The discussion revolves around the definition and formula for work in physics, specifically examining the relationship between work, force, mass, and velocity. Participants explore the implications of the work formula and its application in various contexts.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to define work using the formula A=Fd and explore its relationship with other variables such as mass and velocity. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the equation and the significance of specific terms like the factor of 0.5 in kinetic energy equations.

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There is an active exchange of ideas, with some participants questioning the validity of the original equation and others providing alternative perspectives on the definition of work. Guidance is offered regarding the importance of unit consistency in equations, and some participants express understanding of concepts while still seeking clarification on specific elements.

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Participants note the importance of checking units for consistency and the implications of definitions in physics, such as the concept of work being related to force and displacement. There is also mention of homework constraints that may limit the depth of exploration.

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We will start with the work formula ##A=Fd##, can that formula be defined as:
##A=(ma)Δd=(m\frac{v}{t})vt=(m\frac{v}{t})v_0 t + \frac{1}{2} at^2## ??

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##A=Fd##

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Yes, it can be defined.

I think the answer will be yes, but I will be sure.ALSO: Can we define the work by velocity , mass or any other..?
If so, what's the formula
 
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The equation is incorrect. ALWAYS check your units. When things are added, units must be homogeneous. 1/2at^2 has the units of length, not work.
 
LawrenceC said:
The equation is incorrect. ALWAYS check your units. When things are added, units must be homogeneous. 1/2at^2 has the units of length, not work.

Thanks, anyways:

-Physician said:
ALSO: Can we define the work by velocity , mass or any other..?
If so, what's the formula
, can you answer?
 
In certain cases you can equate work to kinetic energy. For instance if you pushed a block (initially stationary) on a frictionless horizontal surface with a constant force of F for a distance d, the following equation can be written:

F * d = 0.5 * m * v^2

where

F is force
d is distance
m is mass
v is velocity

Note that the units to the left and right of equals sign are the same. This always is the case.
 
LawrenceC said:
In certain cases you can equate work to kinetic energy. For instance if you pushed a block (initially stationary) on a frictionless horizontal surface with a constant force of F for a distance d, the following equation can be written:

F * d = 0.5 * m * v^2

where

F is force
d is distance
m is mass
v is velocity

Note that the units to the left and right of equals sign are the same. This always is the case.

thanks, but can I know why ##0.5## is put there and why is the velocity squared ##v^2##? What's the effect of that?
 
##v^2=v_0+2aχd## would give us the equation ##E_k=\frac{1}{2}mv^2=\frac{1}{2}aFt^2## E_k is Kinetic Energy, Now I understand the 0.5, But What I don't understand is why did you multiply the force ##F## with distance ##d##?
 
-Physician said:
##v^2=v_0+2aχd## would give us the equation ##E_k=\frac{1}{2}mv^2=\frac{1}{2}aFt^2## E_k is Kinetic Energy, Now I understand the 0.5, But What I don't understand is why did you multiply the force ##F## with distance ##d##?

See derivation of kinetic energy formula : http://www.indiastudychannel.com/projects/1644-Derivation-Kinetic-energy.aspx

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110530195816AAVPotW

Work is simply defined as mathematical product of force times displacement in direction of force or resolved in component of that force. What to say when you do work ? Push wall and it does not move. You do no work. That's the concept which implies meaning of the word "work" in physics.

By the way , your equation is also incorrect...
Correct will be to write :
v2=v02+2ad
 
sankalpmittal said:
See derivation of kinetic energy formula : http://www.indiastudychannel.com/projects/1644-Derivation-Kinetic-energy.aspx

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110530195816AAVPotW

Work is simply defined as mathematical product of force times displacement in direction of force or resolved in component of that force. What to say when you do work ? Push wall and it does not move. You do no work. That's the concept which implies meaning of the word "work" in physics.

By the way , your equation is also incorrect...
Correct will be to write :
v2=v02+2ad

thank you. got it now :)
 

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