What is the frequency of oscillation for a human leg as a pivoting rod?

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The discussion revolves around determining the frequency of oscillation for a human leg modeled as a pivoting rod of uniform density, specifically with a length of 0.82 meters. Participants are exploring the implications of the pivot point and the configuration of the leg in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are questioning the correct pivot point for the leg and whether the entire leg or just a portion (the shin) is being considered in the oscillation. There is also discussion about the appropriate formulas to use for calculating the frequency of oscillation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants clarifying assumptions about the pivot point and the configuration of the leg. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of the moment of inertia for a rod, and there are attempts to apply different formulas to arrive at a frequency of oscillation.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing debate about whether to treat the leg as a simple pendulum or as a physical pendulum, which affects the calculations. Participants are also navigating the implications of the problem statement regarding the pivot point.

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Homework Statement


Consider a human leg to be a rod of uniform density pivoting about one end. What will the frequency of oscillation be for a leg with a length of 0.82 meters?

Homework Equations



I believe we need the imagine the leg as a rod, so the moment of inertia would be = 1/3 m L2

The Attempt at a Solution


so is the the pivot point at the hips and the whole leg is moving?

or just the shin is moving and the knee is the pivot point? if this it the case, then do be divide .82m by 2?
 
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goonking said:
so is the the pivot point at the hips and the whole leg is moving?
Yes
or just the shin is moving and the knee is the pivot point? if this it the case, then do be divide .82m by 2?
No. It says 'pivoting about one end' so it's not pivoting about the knee.
 
goonking said:
so is the the pivot point at the hips and the whole leg is moving?
or just the shin is moving and the knee is the pivot point? if this it the case, then do be divide .82m by 2?
It doesn't matter whether it represents the shin or the whole leg, just do as it says: treat it as a rod of length .82m pivoted at one end.
 
haruspex said:
It doesn't matter whether it represents the shin or the whole leg, just do as it says: treat it as a rod of length .82m pivoted at one end.
so I would just use T = 2 pi sqrt(L/g)?

which comes out to be 1.81 seconds

frequency = 1/T = 1/1.81 = .55 Hz

is that correct?
 
goonking said:
so I would just use T = 2 pi sqrt(L/g)
No, I said a rod of that length, not a simple pendulum of that length. Use the moment of inertia you mentioned in the OP.
 
haruspex said:
No, I said a rod of that length, not a simple pendulum of that length. Use the moment of inertia you mentioned in the OP.
ok, I got the the new answer to be .675 Hz after using the physical pendulum formula . Thanks.
 

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