What is the general solution for the given differential equation?

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The problem involves finding the general solution for the differential equation y'' + 4y' + 4y = t + exp(-2t). The subject area is differential equations, specifically focusing on the methods for solving linear ordinary differential equations with constant coefficients.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the method of finding the general solution by combining the complementary function and particular integral. There is an attempt to derive the complementary function from the associated homogeneous equation, leading to a discussion about the roots of the characteristic equation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the roots of the characteristic equation and questioning the correctness of the derived roots. Some participants suggest that there may be a misunderstanding regarding the nature of the roots and their implications for the general solution.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the roots of the characteristic equation, with some participants asserting that the roots are repeated, which may affect the form of the general solution. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach to finding the particular integral.

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Homework Statement



y''+4y'+4y= t+exp(-2t)

find the general solution for the differential equation

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The Attempt at a Solution



general solution is sum of complementary function and particular integral

frist finding complementary function

y''+4y'+4y=0

let y=Aexp(mt)

y'=mA=exp(mt)
y''=(m^2)A=exp(mt)

substitute back and get

((m^2)+4m+4)Aexp(mt)=0

m=-2,0

so complementary function:

y=Aexp(-2t)+B

now find particular integral

y''+4y'+4y=t+exp(-2t)

try

y=a+bexp(-2t)
y'=-2bexp(-2t)
y''=4bexp(-2t)

substitute back and get

4bexp(-2t)-8bexp(-2t)+4(a+bexp(-2t))=t+exp(-2t)
(4+4-8)bexp(-2t)+4a=t+exp(-2t) !
so a = t/4 but b will always go to zero i don't know where my mistake is
 
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zak8000 said:

Homework Statement



y''+4y'+4y= t+exp(-2t)

find the general solution for the differential equation

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



general solution is sum of complementary function and particular integral

frist finding complementary function

y''+4y'+4y=0

let y=Aexp(mt)

y'=mA=exp(mt)
y''=(m^2)A=exp(mt)

substitute back and get

((m^2)+4m+4)Aexp(mt)=0

m=-2,0


Roots are -2, -2.
 
sorry i do not understand you are you proposing (m^2)+4m+4=0 where m= -2,-2?
 
zak8000 said:
sorry i do not understand you are you proposing (m^2)+4m+4=0 where m= -2,-2?

What I am saying is you have the roots wrong, hence the solution wrong.

m2+4m+4 = (m+2)2

which has a repeated root of -2. So what is the general solution of the homogeneous equation?
 

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