What is the general solution for y'' + 4y' + 4y = 5xe^(-2x)?

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution for the differential equation y'' + 4y' + 4y = 5xe^(-2x), focusing on both the homogeneous and particular solutions.

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  • Participants explore the method of undetermined coefficients to find a particular solution and discuss the roots of the characteristic equation for the homogeneous part.

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There are multiple interpretations of the particular solution, with some participants questioning the constant found in the solution. Guidance is offered regarding the need to adjust the particular solution due to repeated roots in the homogeneous part.

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Homework Statement



Find the general solution

y'' + 4y' +4y = 5xe^(-2x)



The Attempt at a Solution



I got (5/2)x^3*e^(-2x) as a particular solution. But I checked online at wolfram alpha and it says the particular solution is (5/6)x^3*e^(-2x). Using method of undetermined coefficients.
 
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Solve the homogeneous part of y'' + 4y' +4y = 0. What are the roots of the characteristic equation?
 
rock.freak667 said:
Solve the homogeneous part of y'' + 4y' +4y = 0. What are the roots of the characteristic equation?

The homogeneous part gave me

y=c1e-2x+c2xe-2x

from the root (D+2)2.

Multiplying by another (D+2) annihilated the 5xe-2x, resulting in a new solution

y=c1e-2x+c2xe-2x+c3x2e-2x

is that right?
 
Squeezebox said:
Multiplying by another (D+2) annihilated the 5xe-2x, resulting in a new solution

y=c1e-2x+c2xe-2x+c3x2e-2x


Your right side is xe-2x, since -2 is seen twice in the homogeneous part, you must multiply it by x2.


Can you show your work on how you got the constant to be 5/2?
 
rock.freak667 said:
Your right side is xe-2x, since -2 is seen twice in the homogeneous part, you must multiply it by x2.


Can you show your work on how you got the constant to be 5/2?

(D2+4D+4)(c3x2e-2x) = 5xe-2x

c3(4x2e-2x-8xe-2x+2e-2x+4(2xe-2x-2x2e-2x)+4x2e-2x) = 5xe-2x


Every thing but c3(2e-2x) reduces to zero

c3(2e-2x)=5xe-2x
c3=(5/2)x
 
Squeezebox said:
(D2+4D+4)(c3x2e-2x) = 5xe-2x

c3(4x2e-2x-8xe-2x+2e-2x+4(2xe-2x-2x2e-2x)+4x2e-2x) = 5xe-2x


Every thing but c3(2e-2x) reduces to zero

c3(2e-2x)=5xe-2x
c3=(5/2)x

I thought you got yp=c3x3e-2x
 
rock.freak667 said:
I thought you got yp=c3x3e-2x

yp=c3x2e-2x
yp=(5/2)x*x2e-2x
yp=(5/2)x3e-2x
 

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