A differential equation with undetermined coefficients

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation using the method of undetermined coefficients, specifically the equation y'' + 4y = 2cos(3x)cos(x). Participants explore the formulation of particular integrals and the implications of the characteristic equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to split the particular integral into two parts based on the right-hand side of the equation. Some participants suggest examining the characteristic equation and the appropriateness of the chosen particular integral for the second part.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the roots of the characteristic equation and the implications for the complementary function. There is an acknowledgment of potential issues with the choice of particular integral for one part of the equation. Additional questions about a different differential equation using undetermined coefficients have been raised, indicating ongoing exploration.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of homework constraints, including the timing of assignment submissions and the nature of the right-hand side of the equations being discussed, particularly regarding the function cot(ax).

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Homework Statement


Solve the following DE with the method of undetermined coefficients:
y'' + 4y = 2cos(3x)cos(x)

Homework Equations


2cos(3x)cos(x) = cos(4x) + cos(2x)

The Attempt at a Solution


Let's split the particular integral into two parts: yp1 and yp2.
So yp1 is solution for RHS=cos(4x) and yp2 is solution for RHS=cos(2x)

Let yp1 = Acos4x + Bsin4x
(yp1)'' = -16Acos(4x) -16Bsin(4x)

So, -16Acos(4x) - 16Bsin(4x) + Acos(4x) + Bsin(4x) = cos(4x)

So by equating coefficients, we have:
yp1 = (-1/12)cos(4x)

In case of yp2, I have taken:
Let yp2 = Acos(2x) + Bsin(2x)
yp2'' = -4Acos(2x) -4Bsin(2x)

So 0 = cos(2x) :sorry::sorry:
That's not great...
 
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You should look at the LHS and think about what the roots are. Your characteristic equation will be;
m^2 + 4 = 0

Once you have found your roots (and hence complementary function), you should check whether yp2 is an appropriate choice.

Hope that helps. If not, I am happy to provide more assistance.
 
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Master1022 said:
You should look at the LHS and think about what the roots are. Your characteristic equation will be;
m^2 + 4 = 0

Once you have found your roots (and hence complementary function), you should check whether yp2 is an appropriate choice.

Hope that helps. If not, I am happy to provide more assistance.
That's it!
Thanks very much! You helped me out.
 
Do you think this you can help me with another one?

y"+a^2y=cot (ax)

This one too with undetermined coefficients.

If the RHS had been sin or cos then I would have used the complex method... but it is cot.

Cotx doesn't come back if differentiated twice. ..So... any clues?
 
Kaguro said:
Do you think this you can help me with another one?
So... any clues?

Sorry, I have just seen your post. Presumably, the assignment has been handed in by now and I apologise for not being able to get back to you in time. Either way, I will still have a think about it.
 
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Master1022 said:
Presumably, the assignment has been handed in by now

Yeah, you are right... but I still want to know how to solve this.
 

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