What Is the General Solution of the Differential Equation Involving (x+1)?

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution of the differential equation (x+1)²y'' + 3(x+1)y' + 0.75y = 0, specifically in intervals that do not include the singular point. The subject area is differential equations, focusing on methods for solving linear homogeneous equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods for approaching the problem, including the use of power series solutions and variable substitutions. Some question the nature of the singular point and its implications for the solution.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different substitution methods, with some participants suggesting changing the variable to t = x + 1. Others have noted the potential for an analytical solution and have shared insights from external references. The discussion reflects a mix of ideas without a clear consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the singular point at x = -1, which is central to the problem. There is also a reference to the need for solutions valid in intervals excluding this point, indicating constraints on the solution space.

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Homework Statement


Find the general solution of (x+1)2y"+3(x+1)y'+0.75y=0 that is valid in any interval not including the singular point.


Homework Equations


y=xr
y'=rxr-1
y"=r(r-1)xr-2
(x+1)2(r(r-1)xr-2)+3(x+1)(rxr-1)+0.75xr=0

The Attempt at a Solution


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Homework Statement


Find the general solution of (x+1)2y"+3(x+1)y'+0.75y=0 that is valid in any interval not including the singular point.

Homework Equations


y=xr
y'=rxr-1
y"=r(r-1)xr-2
(x+1)2(r(r-1)xr-2)+3(x+1)(rxr-1)+0.75xr=0

The Attempt at a Solution


What to do next?

This looks like a good candidate for a power series solution. Do you know what an ordinary point is?
 
No. Please help me from the work that I've shown you.
 
Success said:

Homework Statement


Find the general solution of (x+1)2y"+3(x+1)y'+0.75y=0 that is valid in any interval not including the singular point.

Homework Equations


y=xr
y'=rxr-1
y"=r(r-1)xr-2
(x+1)2(r(r-1)xr-2)+3(x+1)(rxr-1)+0.75xr=0

The Attempt at a Solution


What to do next?

You are on the right track, but change the variable to t=x+1, and find the solution in the form y=tr (y=(x+1)r).

ehild
 
I think this can be solved analytically.

It is not indispensible, but you could make the variable X = (x + 1) to have a slightly tamer looking equation, as d/dx = d/dX OK? Edit: I see already suggested.

Then you might recognise this as the linear homogeneous equation. Bearing out what I said in https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=4458709&postcount=5 I easily found in Piaggio Art. 40 how to treat this kind. I don't say your substitutions won't work too, but Piaggio gives substitute X = et. You are in the end able to express in t without X and get a linear d.e.

I get
[tex]4 \frac{d^2y}{dt^2} + 16\frac{dy}{dt} + 3y = 0[/tex]
but don't rely on me, maybe that should be 8dy/dt after all*, it will be something solvable anyway.

Offhand I don't see what the 'singular point' is about, is this X = y = 0?

I would be glad to see the solution results here and what the s.p. is about.

*Edit: Gives nice factorisation! It must be that! :biggrin:
 
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The solutions can be found in the form y=(x+1)r. Substituting back, r1=-1/2 and r2=-3/2. So the singular point is x=-1.

ehild
 

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