The discussion centers on the definition and implications of terrorism, with participants debating the nuances of what constitutes terrorist acts. Key points include the distinction between state violence and terrorism, with some arguing that state actions, even if brutal, differ fundamentally from terrorist tactics employed by non-state actors. The legality of actions is also contested, with some asserting that labeling actions as "unlawful" is subjective and often determined by the victor in conflicts. Participants explore how terrorism is used as a tool by various groups, including states, to instill fear and achieve political ends, and they emphasize that the motivations behind such actions can vary significantly. The conversation also touches on the moral implications of labeling certain acts as terrorism versus war, highlighting the emotional and psychological dimensions of these terms in public perception. Overall, the dialogue reveals a complex interplay between definitions, motivations, and the societal impact of terrorism and state violence.