MHB What is the Implicit Differentiation Formula for sin(xy) = x+y?

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The discussion focuses on finding the implicit differentiation formula for the equation sin(xy) = x + y. The derivative dy/dx of sin(xy) is established as y cos(xy), and the differentiation of the right side leads to the equation dy/dx = 1 + y'. By equating the derivatives and isolating terms involving y', the final formula is derived as dy/dx = (y cos(xy) - 1) / (1 - x cos(xy)). This process illustrates the application of implicit differentiation in solving for dy/dx in the context of the given equation. The derived formula is confirmed to be correct by the participants in the discussion.
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if $\displaystyle \sin{\left(xy\right)}=x+y$, then $\displaystyle\frac{dy}{dx}=$

know this is implicit differentiation and that $\displaystyle\frac{dy}{dx}$ of $\displaystyle\sin(xy)$ is $\displaystyle y\cos{(xy)}$ but how is this done with $= x + y$

the answer to this is
$
\displaystyle
\frac{y \cos{⁡(xy)}-1}{1-x \cos{(⁡xy)}}
$
 
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karush said:
if $\displaystyle \sin{\left(xy\right)}=x+y$, then $\displaystyle\frac{dy}{dx}=$

know this is implicit differentiation and that $\displaystyle\frac{dy}{dx}$ of $\displaystyle\sin(xy)$ is $\displaystyle y\cos{(xy)}$ but how is this done with $= x + y$

the answer to this is
$
\displaystyle
\frac{y \cos{⁡(xy)}-1}{1-x \cos{(⁡xy)}}
$
[math]\frac{ d(sin(xy)) }{dx} = cos(xy) \times \frac{d(xy)}{dx}[/math]

[math]\frac{d( sin(xy) ))}{dx} = cos(xy) \times (y + xy')[/math]

Can you do it from here?

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
[math]\frac{d( sin(xy) ))}{dx} = cos(xy) \times (y + xy')[/math]

Can you do it from here?

-Dan

$\displaystyle\frac{dy}{dx}(x+y)= 1+y'$

so,

$\cos{xy}\left[y+xy'\right]
=1+y'
$

so, distributing and isolating terms with y'

$\displaystyle
y\cos(xy)-1=y' -x\cos(xy)y' = (1-x\cos(xy))y'
$

dividing

$\displaystyle
\frac{y\cos(xy)-1}{1-x\cos(xy)} = y'=\frac{dy}{dx}
$
 
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karush said:
$\displaystyle\frac{dy}{dx}(x+y)= 1+y'$

so,

$\cos{xy}\left[y+xy'\right]
=1+y'
$

so, distributing and isolating terms with y'

$\displaystyle
y\cos(xy)-1=y' -x\cos(xy)y' = (1-x\cos(xy))y'
$

dividing

$\displaystyle
\frac{y\cos(xy)-1}{1-x\cos(xy)} = y'=\frac{dy}{dx}
$
Looks good to me. :)

-Dan
 
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