What is the impulse on the ball from the string?

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The problem involves a ball of mass 1.00 kg attached to a string, which is fixed to a ceiling. The ball is released from rest and falls 2.00 m before being stopped by the string. Participants are tasked with finding the impulse exerted on the ball by the string.

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  • Participants discuss the kinematic equations relevant to the problem and the calculation of time and velocity just before the string stops the ball. There are questions about the definition of initial and final momentum, particularly regarding the impulse calculation and the sign of the impulse.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the initial and final conditions of the ball's motion. Some have provided insights into the momentum calculations, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the impulse and its direction. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive dialogue is occurring around the definitions involved.

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Participants are navigating the implications of the problem statement, particularly regarding the conditions just before and after the string stops the ball. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between velocity, momentum, and impulse in this context.

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Homework Statement


A ball of mass 1.00Kg is attached to a loose string fixed to a ceiling.The ball is released from the rest and falls 2.00m,where the string suddenly stops it.Find the impulse on it from the string.

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##\vec J=\vec FΔt=Δ\vec P##

The Attempt at a Solution


+z direction is upward.
##ΔH=v_0t+\frac 1 2at^2## so this becames

##-2m=0-\frac 1 2gt^2##
##t=0.638 s##

and

##-2m=v_0t-\frac 1 2gt^2##
we know ##t## so
##-2-1.99=v_0(0.638s)##
##v_0=-6.25\frac m s##

then
##\vec J=\vec FΔt=Δ\vec P##
so
##P_f=m(-6.25)##
##P_i=m0##
##ΔP=-m6.25=-6.25Ns=J##

answer says ##6.25Ns## so there's no minus sign...
I didnt understand why...The question says "Find the impulse on it from the string" so the thing I found is some other impulse which created by something else..?
 
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The final momentum ##P_f## is what again? Did the problem statement not say that the string stops it?
 
jbriggs444 said:
The final momentum ##P_f## is what again? Did the problem statement not say that the string stops it?

Is it wrong ?.I just wrote the velocity of the ball...Sure,spring stops it.I see I guess.
 
Arman777 said:
Is it wrong ?.I just wrote the velocity of the ball...Sure,spring stops it.I see I guess.
What is the "initial" condition just before the string stops the ball?
What is the "final" condition just after the string stops the ball?
 
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Ohh ##P_i## is not ##0## its ##-mv## so ##0-(-m v)=mv## I solved
 
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Thank you
 

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